RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

  
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Re: RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

Postby charming » April 24, 2012, 6:33 am

I agree. Pinnochio has too much information and knows nothing of FTL. If August is Pinnochio. He has yet to see Marco. Why hasn't he if he has knowledge of the curse? He only cares about saving his own life right now. He has made no mention of FTL. August was the one who found Emma. He's connected to Jefferson.
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Re: RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

Postby hjbau » April 24, 2012, 6:46 am

I don't think that August is connected to Jefferson. The scene was deleted and it may have just been that August went looking for Emma or Henry called him and told him what happened. And August may have found her bug outside Jefferson's house. I don't think we should consider a deleted scene as some sort of collusion between the two.
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Re: RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

Postby charming » April 24, 2012, 6:55 am

It is not based on the deleted scene. Based on the fact that they both have outside knowledge of the curse and them wanting Emma to believe in magic. The two both know more then they let out. Both are convinced that she is of great value and more powerful than she realizes and both wanting her to believe.
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Re: RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

Postby The Fresh Nar Nar » April 26, 2012, 12:22 am

The Fresh Nar Nar wrote:For the theory of how Pinocchio could have made it into our world and if he is August.

First is that Pinocchio was created from the same wood that was used in the making of the cabinet made for Emma. Because of the wood having special properties for protecting the person using it. Pinocchio wouldn't be affected by the curse, like Emma, it would send him somewhere random in the world and he would have all of his memories which is why he could be August for having so much insight on the curse and on Emma's role in all this. You guys have also mentions clues to him being Pinocchio so theirs no need to repeat all of those, but one thing I found the most interesting is that you must realize August is new to Storybrooke and out of all the people he goes to for advice (especially about his father) is Mother Superior aka the Blue Fairy and all of the characters (excluding the main ones) that were involved with todays episode were the characters from Pinocchio (in Storybrooke that is).
Also,The theory about why and how, August is dying. I believe you guys were on to something about him turning back into wood (if he is Pinocchio). August said he needs magic for a cure so lets look back to see why this is. First Pinocchio is just a wooden-puppet nothing more nothing less until the Blue Fairy comes and uses her *magic* to turn Pinocchio into a real boy. And if my theory above is correct as too why August would be Pinocchio. It would explain why he's dying. For Pinocchio to be alive he needs *magic* but sense he's enter a world with no magic he will slowly turn back into his wooden-puppet form. This is why August needs Emma to return the *magic* is so important to him.
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Re: RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

Postby hjbau » April 26, 2012, 6:51 am

If August is Pinocchio it just seems weird to me that he is dying now that Emma has returned. Unless he was fine until she returned or has he just been suffering for the last 28 years and it is only right now that he is dying.
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Re: RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

Postby EternalღFlame » April 26, 2012, 11:19 am

hjbau wrote:If August is Pinocchio it just seems weird to me that he is dying now that Emma has returned. Unless he was fine into she returned or has he just been suffering for the last 28 years and it is only right now that he is dying.

Yes. You'd think that Emma's presence in Storybrooke would actually heal him. But I guess not. :(
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Re: RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

Postby gwendl » April 26, 2012, 11:48 am

celesstarr wrote:I hope when Baelfire enters the series this'll be a more dynamic character...and someone to give Mr. Gold a real opposition. In the same breath..I wonder why the writers chose to approach the reveal this way and have Mr. Gold throw all his emotions wide open. I guess this shows how much he really does believe in "love" and can wait even centuries to be reunited with his son...and to be able to hold out hope for that long..WOW! Maybe, this is also a primer for us when the time comes he finds out Belle is actually alive in Storybrooke.


If/when Bae does finally show up, wouldn't he be about 300 years old?
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Re: RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

Postby celesstarr » April 26, 2012, 1:59 pm

gwendl wrote:If/when Bae does finally show up, wouldn't he be about 300 years old?


:lol: Yes, I guess technically he'd be at least that. But in terms of time tunneling..he'd be the age he was when he transported into the land with no magic +28 years of frozen storybrooke time...assuming Rumple was able to make the curse so it transported them at the exact moment of time Bae entered the land with no magic.
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Re: RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

Postby hjbau » April 26, 2012, 2:36 pm

EternalღFlame wrote:Yes. You'd think that Emma's presence in Storybrooke would actually heal him. But I guess not. :(


Yeah exactly. I would think that Emma's presence would help August instead of cause him harm. That just seems counter intuitive to me. And it seems sort of contrived that he would start dying right when Emma came into town also without that being the cause. Though sometimes i guess things like that just happen.
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Re: RELIEVED that August isn't Baelfire

Postby EternalღFlame » April 26, 2012, 2:41 pm

hjbau wrote:
EternalღFlame wrote:Yes. You'd think that Emma's presence in Storybrooke would actually heal him. But I guess not. :(


Yeah exactly. I would think that Emma's presence would help August instead of cause him harm. That just seems counter intuitive to me. And it seems sort of contrived that he would start dying right when Emma came into town also without that being the cause. Though sometimes i guess things like that just happen.

Exactly. But August did say that he needed Emma to believe in order for him to be healed. So, it's not simply Emma's presence that is needed to heal him, but Emma needs to believe too. So far, Emma has been able to give off a few sparks of magic. However, her magic can't be fully activated without her believing first. But lucky for August, that'll be happening any day now.
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