The Blue Fairy aka Mother Superior

[hjbau]

I have to disagree. There is no difference in the words. What is right is good and what is wrong is bad. The Blue Fairy never mentions the people as a whole. Saying the right side might be talking about trying to protect the most people, but that has more to do with saying "right side" then with the words right and good meaning different things. It is more about the sides then anything to do with the word right.

And i think that the Blue Fairy may be a bit shady, but i still think it seems like she is trying to work on the side of the right and the good. And really we haven't seen her do anything bad or wrong. She wanted Rumpel to not be the dark one because he was going around killing people and she did it not by killing him, but by giving a magic bean to his son so that they could go somewhere non magical together. That seems like a good solution to a very big problem.

[charming]

I don't think the Blue Fairy was lying when she said that there is no way to get to Bae. I think she did not consider a curse as a viable option to getting to Bae. Cursing the whole world which is what Rumpel did. Then Rumpel mentioned it so she was like oh well maybe that would work.

I agree the BF said he considered a curse when he should have considered a blessing. I think that was a key line that should not be ignored. We are all jaded by the fact that Rimple/Gold is such a charismatic character that we think he can do no wrong even though right now he seems to be the bad one. Certainly if we all hated him we'd think so much differently.

[mickey]

Now we know that parental love can be considered true love in terms of curse-breaking and that the true love's kiss between a parent and a child can break a curse. After Emma broke Henry's sleeping curse Mother Superior/The blue fairy said herself that it was true love's kiss.
So I've been wondering why the blue fairy didn't tell Bae to kiss his father and thus break his dark curse. For me what Rumple and Bae had was definitely true love. Was she just an idiot or did she want all of this to happen. Or maybe it's just a plot hole.

[PriceofMagic]

That is a good point. Perhaps the blue fairy has a idealistic vision on what the world should be like. One without the dark one present and where dwarves and fairies don't mix beside the fact that the fairy dust is a product of the dwarves' mining.

[Iceblade]

Something not yet considered (at least here). BF is stated as being the original power, which is may be more legend than fact. This would seems to imply she is the original power for good and evil magic, what if she removed the evil magic into another entity - the Dark One. Such a entity that could be more easily controlled by greed and ambition of the Dark One and other humans keeping such a power in-check with perhaps some Fairy assistance.

Someone brought up that it seems strange for the Dark One's magic to just disappear without going somewhere.... what if the result of a true love kiss is the Dark power returning to BF, which could potentially have dire results. In this situation, getting rid of Dark One by sending it to a magicless world, effectively imprisoning it, was the only way to rid FTL from the Dark One's magic.

[Josephine]

I was just rewatching part of "The Return" and Bae's conversation with Morraine was touched on at the beginning of the thread, but one part really stood out to me that hasn't been mentioned here. Here is an excerpt from their talk:

Baelfire: Now he's getting worse everyday. But he said he'll change back if I find a way. I just don't know where to look.

Morraine: Reul Ghorm.

Baelfire: What?

Morraine: I heard about it when I was in the trenches. The other soldiers talked about it. Reul Ghorm is an ancient being that rules the night, the original power.

Baelfire: Bigger than Papa or Worse than Papa?

Morraine: Bigger than anything.

The part of her being one that "rules the night" isn't something I really noticed before. I remembered her being the original power, but to me something associated with night is usually considered shady, evil, or bad. Daylight is good and strong. At least, to me that's my association. I wonder why they included that phrase. Is that a clue that she isn't all that wonderful?

[darcyfarrow]

Thanks for reminding us of that conversation, Josephine. It's made me take notice of the word "rules"--I'm wondering if that means the BF could wipe out the Dark One, Cora, and any other magical being she chose to. I 've been thinking for quite some time now that there must be dark magic in order for light magic to exist; maybe the BF has the power to obliterate evil but won't because she knows that would throw the world out of balance and into chaos.

[Arjay369]

I was just rewatching part of "The Return" and Bae's conversation with Morraine was touched on at the beginning of the thread, but one part really stood out to me that hasn't been mentioned here. Here is an excerpt from their talk:

Reul Ghorm is an ancient being that rules the night, the original power.

The part of her being one that "rules the night" isn't something I really noticed before. I remembered her being the original power, but to me something associated with night is usually considered shady, evil, or bad. Daylight is good and strong. At least, to me that's my association. I wonder why they included that phrase. Is that a clue that she isn't all that wonderful?

The only possible connection I can think of is the character of the Queen of the Night from The Magic Flute which shares many concepts with fairy tales. Just looking at various descriptions of its characters you can see similarities in those of OUAT.

[hjbau]

I thought at first that maybe she only came at night. But we see her come to Pinocchio during the day. I think that might have been the first episode where we saw her floating around during the day. Maybe she was willing because it was an emergency.

I have also thought that was a strange phrase to use.

[slurpeez108]

The expression that describes the Blue Fairy as "ruler of the night" is obviously in reference to her being the Blue Star that you wish upon from the Pinocchio fairytale. You know the Disney song "When You Wish Upon a Star" from that same story. The name Reul Ghorm is simply Scots Gaelic for "blue star." That doesn't make her a dark character, but rather, she is the one who grants wishes. In the pilot episode, we saw Emma blow out a blue star-shapped candle and wish she did't have to be alone on her birthday, which is right when Henry showed up. The Blue Fairy and her fellow fairies are connected to the night sky, as indicated by episode 14, in which the nuns prepare for the festival in a room full of star constellation maps. Also, in FTL, the fairy name Nova can refer to an exploding star, and in SB, her counterpart name, Astrid, is connected to the space term, asteroid.