Rumple vs. Regina

[Clockwatcher]

But I think that at some point Rumple and Regina had at least a tolerable relationship. They aren't like Harry Potter and Voldermort where anytime they are around each other you never know which one will come out alive.

I APPRECIATE the reference very much!!!!

[Midnight Dreary]

But I think that at some point Rumple and Regina had at least a tolerable relationship. They aren't like Harry Potter and Voldermort where anytime they are around each other you never know which one will come out alive.

I APPRECIATE the reference very much!!!!

Wait, you're a Harry Potter nerd too? ME TOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clockwatcher]

Wait, you're a Harry Potter nerd too? ME TOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yay!!!! HP nerds unite!!!!!

Are you on Pottermore??

[Midnight Dreary]

Wait, you're a Harry Potter nerd too? ME TOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yay!!!! HP nerds unite!!!!!

Are you on Pottermore??

No, but I've meaning to join. I think I might do it tonight as a matter of fact.

[Sam993]

Neither will win, to be honest. They're too emotional involved (although, they tried not to show it). They know each other weaknesses and it will all end up blowing in their face. Would be cool though.

[weedith]

Well since the Evil Queen has the word Evil in her name, it is easy to conclude that she is....you know......evil. And she is set squarely against two of the undeniably good characters in the show, Emma and Snow. For these reasons, I think Regina is destined to be defeated. I think ultimately it will be Emma who defeats Regina, but she will definitely have help from many quarters, with Rumplestiltskin among them.

Does this make Rumple good? I don't think so. Except in a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" sort of way. So is Rumple good or evil? On the surface, he seems to do evil things. We have seen him kill, although his murder of the Dark One and the soldiers was arguably justified. He certainly lies. He certainly manipulates people. But again, his manipulation is only possible because people want something for nothing. They want a shortcut. The only selfless deal we have seen so far was Belle, who sacrificed herself to save her village. Rumple presumably created the curse, which seems to be a pretty evil entity. But again, I think it is reasonable to wait and see what his end-game is before passing final judgment on that. By the time it's all over it may look like the ends justify the means.

[Clockwatcher]

Well since the Evil Queen has the word Evil in her name, it is easy to conclude that she is....you know......evil.

WELL, the fandom named her Evil Queen, right? I don't think I've ever heard her be called the EQ in any of the episodes...

[hjbau]

Henry calls her that. Snow called her an Evil Witch in the pilot.

[Clockwatcher]

Henry calls her that. Snow called her an Evil Witch in the pilot.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! Now it makes sense

[FairyTalePrincess]

There is the saying " keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

We now know that Rumple created the curse to find his son. Bae must have been missing for a long time because when we see Rumple in earlier episodes he is "crazy" Losing the one he loved drove him mad, just like Ragina loosing Daniel drove her to the dark side.

I am now 100% sure that Rumple is the one with the power in the town and that Ragina will crumble.