“Kansas” initial reactions – ONCE148

JOSH DALLAS, GINNIFER GOODWIN

The residents of Storybrooke will do whatever it takes to protect Snow and Charming’s soon-to-be born baby but the Wicked Witch will stop at nothing to prove to them that no good deed goes unpunished. In Oz during the past that is, another tornado brought a very special girl into Oz who just might turn out to be the Wicked Witch’s undoing.

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With Mary Margaret in labor and due to give birth at any moment, the residents of Storybrooke go on high alert in an attempt to ensure that Zelena doesn’t try to steal her newborn baby for use in her ultimate game plan to turn back time and change her destiny — while obliterating Regina’s existence. Meanwhile, in the land of Oz of the past, Glinda tries to convince Zelena to fight her evil tendencies and join her and her sister witches as a protector of Oz. But the appearance of a young girl from Kansas could turn out to be her undoing.

These are just our first thoughts about this Once Upon a Time episode. We’ll share more about “Kansas” in our upcoming full discussion live on Wednesday May 7, at 8:00 p.m. (EDT/GMT-4).

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Initial Reactions

What a great penultimate to the season finale! It definitely feels like a season finale already but of course, we still have one more Sunday. It was a total twist, and what a great twist that was. A lot of things happened that probably shouldn’t have happened, should they?

Regina seemed like fully-reformed now after defeating the Wicked Witch with light magic. But what does the smirk mean at the end after she kept Zelena’s pendant?

Rumple finally had the guts to ask Belle’s hand in marriage, but is it ever right to start a future together with a lie? He talked so much about trust, so what happened? Why still go after Zelena? Is this something that he just needs to do to avenge his son? There clearly is always something with him. Are we the only ones who thought that Rumple would stab Zelena using the Dark One’s dagger?

The next two episodes, which is going to be a back to back episodes next week, shall justify all the unexpected and odd twists that happened tonight. There’s so many great, and at the same time odd twists and turns that happened tonight.

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    It’s a boy! Is it now going to be Leo? That’s what Snow wanted to name the baby, anyway, but one thing is for sure — it’s going to be significant.

    Speaking of the baby, he different ingredients of the curse made a lot of sense now after finding out about the four protectors of Oz, which includes love, wisdom, courage and innocence. Regina’s heart represented love, Rumple’s brain was wisdom, Charming’s hilt of the sword was used for courage, and the newborn baby for innocence.

    The next episode is probably going to pick either in alternate realty or with things changed. Will Emma go to New York or will she stay in Storybrooke with her family?

    We thought that Hook was going to kiss her to try bring her powers back but it seems a bit definite that Emma doesn’t have any intention of kissing him again anytime soon.

    The silver slippers was last seen with Dorothy. Does that mean that the silver slippers are still out there somewhere? By the way, it was nice seeing Dorothy throw a bucket of water at the Wicked Witch and see her melt, which of course, was just a fluke.

    Is Regina really a hero now, or will she revert back to being the Evil Queen even before the season finale? What happened after Rumple vanquished Zelena? What does the green smoke mean? Will Emma get her powers back? Share your thoughts and theories by sending it over to us via email, using the comment section below, or by joining us over the forum.

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    • Lucifer

      I hope the next season will be a season with consistent plot.

      • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

        Or at least a magic rule we know will remain consistent?

        • Lucifer

          Yeah… And I hope they will also consider the rules they build in wonderland. Like the rules of magic, the rules of genie. stuffs like that.

    • Jenny

      I just dont know where they could possibly be going after this? If you haven’t seen next weeks PROMO, Emma falls down the portal, so…. I mean, is the whole town going? Argh..So many questions

      • Leslie

        i think its going to be similar to Marty McFly/Back to the Future

        • theFranchiise

          “Roads? Where we’re going… we don’t need… roads.”

        • theFranchiise

          “Roads? Where we’re going… we don’t need… roads.”

    • Jenny

      Oh, and can someone address how suspicious it was when Regina was putting away Zelena’s necklace????? There was something there..

      • melissa

        yes! I’m not sure if it was the end of her “feeling like a heroine” but, or something was up

      • Shandelle

        Yes!!!! I wondered the exact same thing. I even wondered briefly if Zelena pulled some switcheroo into Regina’s body the way Pan did with Henry… but that would REALLY be stretching it on the writers’ part and I’d hate it if they did it again so soon.

    • Lucifer

      Why the necklace? I thought Zelena was born with power.

      • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

        This episode said that all her magic got transferred into it.

        • Lucifer

          Yeap. But How did Zelena allow that? Oh.. for the sake of the plot. HAHA Their story gets lamer every time.

          • 17jeda

            Then stop watching? If you are no longer entertained, it isn’t worth your time

            • Lucifer

              Actually its worth of my time. I look forward to Once eps every time. Let’s face it. They need to be better next season. Like better if not the best…They should improve somehow.

            • theFranchiise

              How can you get better than OZ?!?! Dude, the Wicked Witch, flying monkeys… Dorothy… the bucket of water! OZ > All. When I found out S3p2 revolved around the WWotW, I was ecstatic!

              I honestly don’t know what fairy tale they’ll do next… that said, I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing Olaf!

            • theFranchiise

              How can you get better than OZ?!?! Dude, the Wicked Witch, flying monkeys… Dorothy… the bucket of water! OZ > All. When I found out S3p2 revolved around the WWotW, I was ecstatic!

              I honestly don’t know what fairy tale they’ll do next… that said, I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing Olaf!

    • Lucifer

      Don’t get me wrong I love Once but why do they keep on making stories that is good to watch – but as a smart audience, it conflicts the many other episodes… LOL

    • Lucifer

      Oh…And what they do to Aurora and Prince Philip is unspeakable. They deserve more storyline than being a welcoming committee, and worse, flying monkeys.

      • Shandelle

        Totally agree. And Mulan has all but disappeared also, even though she joined Robin Hood’s band of merry men! I know the actress is on a different show now, but I hate it when recurring characters just disappear and remaining characters don’t at least speak to it to explain away a plot hole.

    • Lucifer

      I hope they are not gonna make change the past to change the present kind of plot…That sounds Heroes. HAHA.

      • Leslie

        I don’t think Zelena or her “magical spirit pendant” can actually break the laws of magic and actually change the past. She may be able to time travel a la Dr. Who but in the end she will not be able to change the past

        • Lucifer

          yeah but this is Once upon a time, they can break the rules if they wanted to, just like they break the laws of curse, laws of magic, and laws of wishes… haha

    • Lucifer

      I thought Glinda said that Light Magic is from someone who is a product of true love. Rules just changes every after episode.

      • http://danceempress.blogspot.com Jhack

        Actually, Glinda said (and I quote), “Only the purveyor of the strongest light magic will be able to accomplish a defeat. Magic created from true love.” She didn’t (specifically) say ‘product of true love”. This made sense why Regina was made the savior. While Emma was born out of true love and technically ‘The Savior’, Regina was obviously filled with love and belief at the time of Zelena’s demise; romantically (with Robin Hood), parental (with Henry having gotten his memories back and her breaking Zelena’s memory potion), but also because everyone encouraged her that she’s a hero now and that she can do it. The way I see it, Regina’s got all four traits from the four witches/sisterhood of Oz – love (despite not having her heart which, to me, is more powerful), courage (basically with the help of everyone, especially the two men that matters to her), wisdom (knowledge of magic, perhaps?), and innocence (well, basically she’s new to ‘light magic’ so that could be it); she “simply has to choose to be good”, that’s what Glinda said (to Zelena) and exactly what Regina did — she chose to be good, be a hero. Plus, Zelena said it herself, “with the right ingredient, (she) can do anything” and Regina’s got it. Regina basically just followed everything that Glinda said (to Zelena) — let go (of the envy, or in Regina’s case, her evil ways) and took control her destiny. But as to why the smirk after she put away Zelena’s pendant, I have no idea! And I hope Emma wouldn’t try taking Henry to New York in the finale, because that could swing Regina back to being all Evil Queen on her.

        • Lucifer

          Nice point. I understand now… I dont think Emma would or can bring henry back to new york, I saw the promo, shes being swallowed by that magical portal…

    • Lucifer

      Though I have some complains about the plot or the show itself.. I still dont want it to end. I want more seasons for the show.

    • Lucifer

      I just love how the podcast agree and disagree about the story. Hehe.

    • Heather Gorsuch

      Who wants to have a baby naming contest for Snow & Charming’s new son? :P

      • True Believer

        MEEEEE

      • Jacquelyn

        We’re having one over at the forum if you want to chime in! http://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/welcome-baby-charming/

        • Heather Gorsuch

          I can’t post in your forums, a couple times I have tried creating an account there it hasn’t let me successfully. :(

          • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

            Please email feedback@ONCEpodcast.com with more details, including the error message (if any) that you see.

            • Heather Gorsuch

              Thanks, I tried again and it was successful this time! :)

    • True Believer

      Okay I did really like this episode but one thing that continues to annoy me is Emma saying she’s going to go back to New York. Emma has progressed so much in this past season (accepting being an orphan and the saviour/embracing magic) and the fact that she keeps mentioning NY is so irritating because that would essentially be RUNNING AWAY FROM HER PROBLEMS. And Emma has come so far that she should let herself be embraced by a family who will love her and not fall for a year of lies.

      (Also this is a weird comment but the camera work during captain hook and emma walking was really cool and much more personal than usual).

      • Lucifer

        Yeah… How can she live in new york after all the mess she went through… So lame.

        • Rebekah

          sooo annoying!

      • Shandelle

        I think a lot of people in the fandom are beyond frustrated with Emma wanting to take Henry back to NY and speaking about it like it’s a done deal. Not only is it a step back from her character growth this season, it’s completely disrespectful to Regina who is also Henry’s mother! And Henry has really bonded with Regina this season and let’s face it, he will absolutely want to stay in Storybrooke. I’m also annoyed that Emma is still being so hostile toward Hook. He’s really proven himself time and again on top of being really encouraging of her and her abilities. I was really glad that Charming finally stepped up and had his back. I don’t know why Hook puts up with some of her crap sometimes! I know he’s in love with her but he should speak up for himself when she and/or the Charmings have it all wrong and letting a misunderstanding go on for too long. Hopefully the finale will turn things around a bit with that relationship.

        • Leslie

          OMG – you’ve taken the words right out of my mouth!! I’ve been dying to post a thread on this subject for a while but been swamped with work — Very well said!! And 1 more point I’d like to make as a mom – Emma keeps touting herself as supermom – she’s been a full time mom for just 1 year! Regina was there from diapers to preteen 100% for Henry, and has been more than generous in sharing joint custody with Emma, as well as letting her be the one to take Henry (with happy fake memories) at the end of the mid season (selfless Mom action). The way Emma talks about going to NYC as being in Henry’s best interest is poppycock – its for her own selfish reasons – How can keeping a child away from his memories and then from a loving & caring family be anything but selfish. Emma gave Henry away because of selfishness (she just couldn’t be a mom, etc.) and now wants to keep him away cause its best for her not him (again selfish). A true mom (biological or chosen) puts the child first, selfish reasons second. – just saying.

          • theFranchiise

            It’s so blatantly obvious that she’s NOT going back to NYC. ;)

    • melissa

      I laughed at the idea of an “engagement dagger”! What if season 4 is about Rumple being the villain against everyone, not just a wizard taking advantage of conflict anymore but now causing the conflict? That would be an appropriate final battle i think

      • Rebekah

        I thought the ‘engagement dagger’ was silly too at first but it actually makes sense considering it’s everything their relationship is based on. I’ll go with it. It also makes Rumples betrayal at the end of the episode that much more despicable. really really dislike Rumple right. Too many 2nd chances. When is enough enough?!

        • theFranchiise

          I think it was inconsiderate of Belle to NOT let him kill Zelena. I was really hoping for her to say “Yes I’ll marry you… now go slay that bitch!” ;)

          • Onceprincess

            what?! NOOoooo! lol ;)

    • Jacquelyn

      If they name that baby Neal, I might flip tables (as will every other Neal fan). We’ve talked about this quite a bit, and NO ONE wants that. I think his name will be Graham.

      • http://danceempress.blogspot.com Jhack

        I don’t want that either. But you know, I was thinking about what Rumple did and IF it’s on his mind to go back in time to save Neal/Bae, maybe there still is hope for SwanFire after all? (Translation: I haven’t given up on SwanFire)

        • Onceprincess

          I haven’t given up either. I do like SwanFire more than her with Hook blech! :P that ship needs to sink to the bottom of the ocean. lol it’s just weird to me that Hook was with Neal’s mom and now his ex girlfriend. Creepy! Come to think of it is there a way her and the monkey/the Wizard of OZ could work out? lol I’d rather ship that than her with Hook.

      • Rebekah

        That would be creepy especially for Emma. She was with Neal and now her baby brother’s name is Neal?! what?! no.

    • Sherazade

      “But what does the smirk mean at the end after she kept Zelena’s pendant?”

      I thought that was simply an “I win!” moment. That’s why we got her theme music as well. Wicked 0, Evil 1. That kind of thing.

      • Rebekah

        Perhaps but that was confusing too. I get whiplash from Regina being good one moment and then evil the next. Pick a side please!

      • Leslie

        i just think it’s a sly smile of satisfaction … like see in the end I won

    • Sci-Fi Girl

      It’s a boy!

      A few episodes ago you mentioned the birth on Charmed, and here I was reminded of it again. On Charmed they had many generations of female witches, so it was kind of a big deal when a powerful BOY was born. (He was even almost rejected by his ghost great-grandmother. :o )

      Anyway, look at how many magical women there are on OUAT: Cora, Regina, Zelena, and Emma were all born with magical ability, whereas Rumple had to acquire magic. In OZ, there are all those witches, and the wizard is just a pretender. Not to mention the fairies!

      Does magic come more naturally to women on OUAT? Is this the first BOY we have seen on this show who is BORN with magic?

      SFG

    • Lucifer

      Oh… Ive been waiting for the full podcast for this episode but no to avail… T_T Any way, just kill rumple already. Haha

    • Leslie

      any ETA on when the full podcast on Kansas is due out?