ONCE010: True North (S01E09)

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We would call “True North” a functional episode that gave us another story, but also further built the overall story. It’s too bad we didn’t see more time in the Blind Witch’s house.

There was no recap in the introduction for this episode. Did they run out of time, or are the short recaps no longer necessary? This title screen was the most obvious what the story would be about.

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The epitome of this entire episode is this: Two kids searching for their father.

 

Fairytale Land

The compass is special. “A family always needs to be able to find one another.”

The prize for Silliest Line of the Night belongs to the Woodcutter, who let loose this gem: “A fine specimen! The wood it provides will keep our family’s hearth warm this winter.” Thank you, good sir, for explaining how wood works. [Entertainment Weekly via @_obisgirl]

Bad dialog is backed by a strong performance. Good actors. Bad lines.

Did the evil queen put the father of Hansel and Gretel in her carriage when she took him? She walks the kids to the blind witch. She could’ve given them a ride there.

Was the Evil Queen’s hair not two colors?

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Did the curse only create the town of Storybrook, and the Queen use her power to magically trasport/send everyone to it?

Does Regina still have her powers (teleportation in black smoke and controlling trees and vines) in Storybrook?

Gretel’s white stone she slung at the “black rider” connected well with the Grimms version of the fairytale.

Did the blind witch steal the apple from Regina?

Easter egg: Cookies on the wall of the blind witch’s house appear again in Storybrook.

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Look at the cookie in the upper-left

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Ava and Nicholas get to eat the cookies from Mary Margaret’s house

“GRAVY OR BUTTER?”

Dan read an excerpt for us from Grimm’s Fairy Tales version.

The evil queen can send fire through the magic mirror.

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The evil queen is holding the apple and watching Snow White through the mirror when she’s “cavorting with dwarves.”

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The Evil Queen got the sleeping potion from Meleficent. Maybe there was only enough of it to put the curse on one apple and that’s why another could not be made.

The Evil Queen invites the children to live with her, veins “popping out” in her effort to be nice.

Does the queen only collect strong hearts in an effort to become more powerful?

Listener feedback: Is there a village in the woods on the right hand side where Hansel and Gretel find themselves? Could that be Storybrook?

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Did the Evil Queen capture Hansel and Gretel’s father because she planned to use them to retrieve her apple from the blind witch, or was that only her plan after she saw that they were brave?

The Evil Queen genuinely wanted to know why the kids refused her for the uncertain future with their father. She seemed on the verge of tears.

Storybrooke

Look at these comic books that Henry was looking at in the convenience store. Are the issue dates relevant to the timeline?

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Fantastic Four issues #266 and #268 (pictured above) were released in May and July, 1984, respectively. Kazar the Savage premiered in 1981.

We met Sneezy, also known as Mr. Clark!

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Is Emma subject to the time in Storybrook?

People’s names in Storybrook have a relation to who they were and what they did in fairy tale land.

Regina doesn’t know her own son—”My son doesn’t eat candy.” He had Apollo Bars in his backpack in the episode when he got trapped in the mine with Archie.

Do you think Henry looked at Nicholas weird when he met him?

Regina uses words like “miscreants” and “fear not.” Does this confirm that the curse had no effect on her?

Regina tells Emma, “You shouldn’t make promises that you can’t keep,” yet she doesn’t keep her own promises. Regina is unconcerned with integrity.

What’s with Boston? Emma lived there, Ruby wanted to go there, and Ava and Nicholas are going to be sent there by Regina.

Emma’s necklace is a swan medallion.

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Who is Mr. Krzyszkowski? Could he be the Genie since he told Emma to fill out three request forms? Could Mr. Gold’s polishing the lamp be a clue for this?

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Why did Emma lie about the kind of person Henry’s father is?

Mr. Gold doesn’t let on about how much history he’s aware of in both Storybrook and fairy tale land. Evidenced by the fact that the card is blank. He knows much more than he’s letting on.

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Why is Mr. Gold helping Emma help others to find their happy endings in Storybrook?

Are the objects in Storybrook from fairy tale land magic, or are they just connections to memories for those they belonged to (for example, Emma’s blanket, the compass, etc.)?

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Did Emma stall her car on purpose, or did it stall because of the “bad things” that happen when people in Storybrook try to leave.

Who is the stranger on the motorcycle? What was his motivation for being so mysterious? Where did he come from?

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Two theories: the stranger could be Rumplestiltskin’s son, or he could be the 7-year-old who found Emma as a baby on the side of the freeway (as mentioned in the newspaper during the episode when Emma was elected sheriff).

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Can Regina give people the power to come and go from Storybrook?

Lost easter eggs

Henry was reading issue 3 of the Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk comic book, written by Lost producer Damon Lindelof.

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Stranger’s license plate number is 23.

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Kids end up in the forest lying on the ground, like the plane crash in Lost.

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  • MistySwirl

    About Regina and the curse, maybe the curse is just an amplified version of her own power.

    She might not have enough power to transport all of FTL so this new curse does it for her and joins FTL to our world through some sort of wormhole.

  • MistySwirl

    About Regina and the curse, maybe the curse is just an amplified version of her own power.

    She might not have enough power to transport all of FTL so this new curse does it for her and joins FTL to our world through some sort of wormhole.

  • MistySwirl

    And as for Henry getting the comic books, it isn’t really possible for it to be the 1980s if Emma’s crime was done in the 1996, technically it would be 2006/2007 [if she went to jail in 1996 and had Henry there, ten years later she's in Storybrook which would make it around '06]

    • Daniel J. Lewis

      @MistySwirl Right, the timeline of the show seems locked into 2006 or 2007. That’s unreasonable. Lost took place almost all in one specific “modern day” year. We don’t have to assume that Once Upon a Time started in 2011. So far, I don’t think we’ve seen anything to tie it with 2011.

      The dates of the comics books are a bit odd. Kazar the Savage had plenty of other issues, so if Storybrooke is locked in 1984, then there should’ve been more current issues of Kazar.

      Failing to match the dates of the comic books could have been a prop glitch, but I think it is obvious that, with the exception of the Lost-cameo of Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk, the comic books are intentionally old.

      Now that I know where to look, I want to go back to previous episodes and see what issues Henry was reading.

  • MistySwirl

    And as for Henry getting the comic books, it isn’t really possible for it to be the 1980s if Emma’s crime was done in the 1996, technically it would be 2006/2007 [if she went to jail in 1996 and had Henry there, ten years later she's in Storybrook which would make it around '06]

  • hjbau

    Do you have a picture of Mr. Clarke/Sneezy?

    • hjbau

      I think i saw Doc in the crowd at the debate. Do you have a picture of the debate crowd? You just have such nice quality screencaps. You can see the hag and the ogre on the left.

    • Daniel J. Lewis

      @hjbau Oops! I never included that in these shownotes. Check now. I added it until Storybrooke.

  • Suri

    Does it seem weird to anyone that no one questioned why a kid was alone in the middle of an empty street at night?!

    • http://jeremylaughlin.com/ Jeremy Laughlin

      @Suri Which kid on which night? ;)

      • Daniel J. Lewis

        @Jeremy Laughlin I think @Suri is referring to the seven-year-old kid who found baby Emma.

  • Ashleah Younker

    Was Pinocchio around 7 years old at the time of the curse?

    • http://About.me/DanielJLewis Daniel J. Lewis

      That is about how old Pinocchio looks in the pilot episode.