ONCE059: The Doctor initial reactions

October 28, 2012 by 19 Comments

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We finally learn the surprising backstory to one of Storybrooke’s most mysterious characters! Congratulations to those accurately predicted it!

These are just our first thoughts about this Once Upon a Time episode, and we’ll share more in our upcoming full episode.

While Regina continues to try and stop using her magic in an attempt to win back Henry’s affections, she begins seeing what she believes is a ghost from her past; and when Mary Margaret and Emma discover a lone survivor from an ogre massacre, Emma begins to question whether or not he’s telling the truth. Meanwhile, in the fairytale land that was, Regina finds herself failing at learning the dark arts from a dark master because something from her past is preventing her from using her magic for evil

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Initial reactions

Some of our interesting discussion points (in no particular order):

  • We finally know who Dr. Whale is! Congratulations to everyone who correctly guessed all the clues!
  • Who is Dr. Victor Frankenstein’s brother?
  • Whose heart was used in Frankenstein’s brother and in Daniel?
  • Was Regina’s preservation spell just enough to be able to resurrect Daniel? We’re not going to see Graham resurrected, too, are we? Rumplestiltskin did say, “Dead is dead” (also a quotation from Lost).
  • Could Dr. Frankenstein also be the Wizard of Oz? There were several hints.
  • Dr. Frankenstein’s world is one where science seems more powerful than magic. Could it also truly be a black-and-white world?
  • Was Cora the force that kept the safe haven in present-day fairy tale land hidden and protected?
  • Did Cora find a magic bean but use it incorrectly, resulting in the beanstalk?
  • Is this magic compass a nod to Pirates of the Caribbean, or maybe from the same maker as where Hansel and Gretel’s father got his compass?

We gave everything a brief overview and would love to hear your thoughts!

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  • http://twitter.com/AuridelDawne TheGoldenKey

    The reason Dr. Whale’s such a skirt chaser is because they modeled him after Dr. Frank N. Furter from Rocky Horror Picture Show who is a notorious lech. Re: Ruby and Dr. Whale’s attaction toward her, again, another Frankenstein reference to 1943′s Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman. There were 3 other movies that had both monsters together and they never got along and always ended up fighting.

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      All monster movies have an attractive woman who trips when being chased by the monster.

      • http://twitter.com/AuridelDawne TheGoldenKey

        Good one Daniel. Poor MM. She really did “trip” up with that one night stand.

  • Sean

    The item that Rumple wanted from Jefferson was the Ruby Slippers from OZ. Instead Jefferson could only deliver Glinda the Good Witch’s orb from her staff.

    • Sean

      Oh wait, that wasn’t the Good Witch’s, it was the Witch of the West’s crystal ball.

    • Sean

      Oh wait, that wasn’t the Good Witch’s, it was the Witch of the West’s crystal ball.

    • 17jeda

      Can we just picture Rumplestilskin wearing those slippers closing his eyes and saying “there’s no place like home”. Where would they take him? just to kansas?

      • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

        LOL! I keep thinking about that, too! I can see Rumplestiltskin doing that, but NOT Mr. Gold!

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      Ah ha! Thanks for the clarification!

  • Teodora

    How on earth did regina preserve Daniel’s body when she knew nothing about magic when daniel was killed. She only learned about spells quite some time later…

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      Yeah, that’s a plot hole there, I think. I haven’t figured out that one yet.

  • http://twitter.com/chrisfl1963 Chris Taylor

    Wow! What a show! Can’t Fool Emma Hook! And Dr Whale/Frankenstein didn’t see that coming.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kasey.thacker Kasey Thacker

      Maybe the way for Snow and Emma to come back to Storybrooke isn’t in The Enchanted forest but in some old lady’s attic in Kansas?

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      I loved Hook’s response to just lay it all out there. Emma probably thought, “I don’t like Mr. Gold, either, so come with us!”

  • Siobhan Lilley

    Anothe clue that whale is Frankenstein and the wizard of oz: Jefferson is the one who brings him to rumple. It is upon returning from the se journey of retrieving whale that Jefferson gives rumple the orb and says he could not get the slippers. Hence he was in the land of oz for the orb and whale! I am hoping they are one in the same because I was not happy with the Frankenstein tie in :/

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      The orb, and I thought the slippers, too, were at the beginning of the episode, before Jefferson brought Dr. Frankenstein. But I could be wrong. I’ll know more when I rewatch the episode a couple more times for our podcast.

  • Ash

    Several Oz references in this episode — Dr. Frankenstein called a wizard, Rumple seeking slippers, the witch’s crystal ball, black & white vs. color sequences — but the biggest clue of all that Oz is in our future is that Disney is releasing a new Oz movie in March. Disney owns ABC……no way they would pass up the opportunity to spread a little “Oz fever” through their highly rated television show!

    • http://DanielJLewis.net/about Daniel J. Lewis

      Jefferson also quoted or referenced several lines from the Wizard of Oz, like “The wonderful wizard,” and “we’re off …”

  • Ash

    Another nod to Pirates of the Caribbean was when Killian Jones said something like “you’ve heard of me” when Emma knew of Hook.