Unanswered questions, August & Henry, Jack the Giant Killer, Neal/Baelfire as Peter Pan – ONCE070

January 2, 2013 by 2 Comments

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Did August get Henry to Regina? Is Neal also Baelfire and Peter Pan? Could Jack actually be the sword? And what happens if Hook tries to kill Mr. Gold/Rumplestiltskin?

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Unanswered questions from Jacob

  • How did Henry get to Storybrooke?
  • Who wrote the book?
  • What happened to Thomas in “The Price of Gold”?
  • Who did King George love?
  • Who was King Leopold’s first wife (Snow White’s mom)?
  • What happened to Jefferson’s wife and who was she?
  • How did Queen of Hearts get Henry Senior?
  • Who is Baelfire? Neal? Peter Pan?
  • Where did Baelfire go?

Did August bring Henry

RiddleRaven called in to suggest, as we’ve previously discussed, that August may have be the one to help Mr. Gold “procure” baby Henry for Regina. In “7:15 a.m.,” Regina said that something seemed familiar about August. Could she barely remember meeting him when she received Henry?

If Bae is Neal is Peter Pan

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It’s 2013… In January… So we only have a week until we get ONCE back!!! icon biggrin Unanswered questions, August & Henry, Jack the Giant Killer, Neal/Baelfire as Peter Pan ONCE070

Anywayyyyy,

One thing I can definitely see in one of the next episodes is Emma being sent out to find Bae and discovering that Bae is Neal. It would be a great plot twist (although half the world already holds this opinion), and it would add some depth to Henry’s already messed up family tree.

So, assuming Neal is Bae:

I was reading some other posts in the thread about who Neal is, and realized: one of the major points in Peter Pan was that Peter couldn’t remember his family.

As sad as this would be, this WOULD explain a lot. Like, if Neal is either Bae or Peter, why would he need August to convince him that magic is real with whatever was in the box? If he’s Peter, I think Tinker Bell was in the box. Maybe he didn’t need to believe per say, but perhaps he needed some… “convincing” to leave Emma. Just like in the story, when Peter leaves Wendy behind to grow up and he stays a kid with Tinker Bell, Neal left Emma behind to “grow up.”

How does this tie into Baelfire?

How much of a twist would it be if Emma went out on a journey to find Rumple’s lost son after hundreds of years of Rumples’ waiting, brought him back to Storybrooke, and on top of him being Henry’s dad… he had no idea who Rumplestiltskin was.

I also like Daniel’s idea that he could just be a normal person (which would be really ironic, because actually no one is really expecting that). But if he was a normal person, what could POSSIBLY be in the box to convince you that magic exists and that August is telling the truth. And if August did manage to convince Neal, would Neal still have chosen to do the right thing after what he’s done? Or did he need to be threatened a little?

What do you guys think?

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Jack is the sword?

I was rewatching Tallahassee and the scene where Emma and Hook discuss Jack the Giant Killer popped out at me. I don’t think Jack was the skeleton at all–Jack was the SWORD.

Rewatching that scene, it seems pretty obvious to me that while Emma was talking about the skeleton, Hook was definitely talking about the sword. Not to mention the deliberate panning on the sword *engraved with Jack* when Hook says, “Jack, the Giant Killer.”

So that opens up a lot, storytelling wise. Because we haven’t seen the last of the Giants storyline, I don’t think we’ve seen the last of the real man behind the sword, who might’ve faked his own death.
Just an idea!

Sarah

Storybrooke zipcode and Lost

Hey guys!

I am re-watching season 1 and listening to your corresponding podcasts about them afterwards… I’m listening to “Dreamy” right now, and you guys had posted a screencap of Kathrynn’s phone records.

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You asked if we saw any lost easter eggs… I’ve never ever watched lost, but I know that 815 is a significant number, and I noticed 04815 is the postal code for Kathrynn’s address (or wait… you guys call it a zip code, right?)

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Erin

Emma & Mr. Gold

Hello!

I love your podcast, and I signed up but forgot all my info. I am probably too late, but the implications of Emma realizing she has had no control over her life, and she has powerful magic, are strong. Emma was a woman who trusted no one, lived life as a bail bondsman, and felt she had control over her own life, & has now realized it was out of her hands. I also believe that for some reason, Rumpy wants/knows that she will become the most powerful of them all.

I rewatched “Tallahassee” and I am 100% on board with Neal as Baelfire. I just knew after his reaction to the dream catcher, and his interaction w/August, that he has an an innocence deep down, that could only make him Bae.

Oh, and does Hook know that if he kills Rumpy with that knife, he will become the Dark One? And that he and Cora will look like Halloween came too early when they land?

Looking forward to your next episode.

Vanessa

Connection between “Queen of Hearts” and the pilot

Hi guys,

Not sure if this was discussed, but I don’t recall… and it might be obvious, but I just connected it… (not anything major, just for fun).

I just rewatched the pilot. When Charming kissed Snow in the first scene of the episode (after she ate the apple), she said “you… you found me.”
“Did you ever doubt I would?”
“Truthfully? The glass coffin gave me pause!”

And that is what Charming said to her at the end of Queen of Hearts
“You… you did it!”
“Did you ever doubt I would?”
“No… though the burning red room did give me pause.”

So… that was cute! icon smile Unanswered questions, August & Henry, Jack the Giant Killer, Neal/Baelfire as Peter Pan ONCE070 I’m new to your podcast, so now that I purchased the blurays, I am going to listen to the corresponding podcast from last season with the episodes I watch on bluray now!

That’s all!

- Erin

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  • http://twitter.com/queen_frostine Diana

    I don’t know how Henry got to Storybrooke I think it would be a huge stretch for August to have been involved in his adoption. Since Emma wasn’t aware of her pregnancy until after she was put into prison, the only way he could have known that she was expecting at all would be by having contact with someone inside the prison willing to pass on private health information on an underage prisoner. That’s be an illegal transfer of information as even prisoners are protected by the the medical privacy statutes of HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) which has been in effect since 1996. According to the law, your health information can’t be shared with others without your permission. The standards are so strict that doctors offices aren’t even supposed to speak to a spouse or a parent of a child that’s over 18 if their patient hasn’t explicitly given them permission to do so.

    While I suppose it’s possible that August had an informant willing to break the law for him within the prison in Phoenix, it seems unlikely to me that someone who took his responsibilities as guardian with so little seriousness that he’d take off to Phuket while his charge was in jail would make that level of effort. I mean, those 10 months in prison were the only period in Emma’s life when August could for sure know where he could find her. He seems to me like someone who would take that Emma’s incarceration for granted.

    I might buy this theory if the writers hadn’t made it so obvious that August had abandoned his Emma duties while she was in jail by having Emma’s jailer say that the package with the car keys came from Phuket and by confirming in the official podcast that he got there by keeping the money Neil had given him to pass onto Emma. But knowing that, it just doesn’t gel with what we know of August’s abandonment of his duty. Plus if August had a hand in Henry’s adoption, the very set of circumstances that delivered the Savior to Storybrooke, would he have really felt so ashamed over having failed his father? If he had done that, he would have been able to tell himself that he had done what he was meant to do, even if he had done other things he’s not so proud of along the way.

  • Red192

    in the official podcast, it was said that Regina can cross the border without losing her memories. One of the creators said that maybe she has already, we don’t know (or something along those lines). This could mean that she went to get Henry herself, and maybe saw August hanging around? We know Mr. Gold procured Henry for her, but maybe he just let her know and organized it, and she went to get him herself.