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March 31, 2012 at 1:42 pm #134095obisgirlParticipant
I saw this on my tumblr:
Episode 1.19 The Return – Short Synopsis
Mr. Gold tries to expose August’s true identity; Regina is confronted about her involvement in Kathryn’s disappearance; David hopes to reconcile with Mary Margaret.August is not Pinnochio people. August is too much of an important character to be former puppet. I'm saying it now, I think this spoilers confirms that he is Baelfire.
[adrotate group="5"]April 1, 2012 at 8:23 pm #140535SlurpeezParticipantWhy would Mr. Gold want to expose his own son’s identity though? I can’t see why Mr. Gold would be motivated to risk exposing Baelfire to Regina’s wrath.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 2, 2012 at 7:09 pm #140676midnight drearyParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
Why would Mr. Gold want to expose his own son’s identity though? I can’t see why Mr. Gold would be motivated to risk exposing Baelfire to Regina’s wrath.
He doesn’t know that August is Bae. If he did, then he wouldn’t be so eager to expose him.
April 2, 2012 at 8:14 pm #140688angiebelleParticipantIt would be very difficult for August to be Bae if Rumpelstiltskin became the dark one centuries before the curse was enacted as the writers have stated…
The only way it is remotely possible would be if he had been stuck in time for centuries and then grew up and somehow randomly ended up in our world in modern day with knowledge of the curse and Emma being the savior. That just doesn’t sound very plausible to me.
Of all the theories I’ve heard about August, Pinocchio is the only one that makes sense to me. Gepetto built that magic wardrobe- he could have helped his son escape. Then his son grew up in our world with full knowledge of the curse, returning to Storybrooke 28 years later to help Emma believe. It really wouldn’t make sense for August to be a character who wasn’t close to the royal couple when the curse was enacted- he knows too much.
Now, of course, I could be wrong….but I will be disappointed in the writers if they’ve decided to go with an illogical twist.
April 2, 2012 at 8:56 pm #140694hjbauParticipantI actually don’t think it makes sense that August is either Pinocchio or Bae, but that doesn’t mean they might not do that. I am still hoping he is just someone else.
April 3, 2012 at 4:04 am #140734PheeParticipantAngieBelle, a big WORD to your post. 🙂
Even if the timing could somehow be made to work, I’d think that Mr Gold would recognise his own son, even if he hadn’t seen him since he was much younger. As a parent, he’d still recognise him, and would just be overjoyed to see him, so “tries to expose August’s true identity” doesn’t fit with the Bae theory at all IMO.
I’m having to slightly re-evaluate my theory on August though, because I’d been thinking Mr Gold had had August kinda working for him as an agent in the world outside Stroybrooke, but I’m not sure if that’ll fit with what we now know about this ep.
April 3, 2012 at 5:03 am #140749SlurpeezParticipantMidnight Dreary wrote He doesn’t know that August is Bae. If he did, then he wouldn’t be so eager to expose him.
I think that Rumple must know who August really is, otherwise he wouldn’t be able to expose his true identity.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 4, 2012 at 12:12 am #140848lorem ipsumParticipantOk, what have we got for August:
Pinocchio: Yes because of the hints dropped – shin splint, does not lie – (but Pinocchio does lie), saved by Gepetto since Gepetto made the wardrobe. Only way that’s possible, IMO, is if Pinocchio became part of the wardrobe otherwise Emma wouldn’t have been able to go through.
Bae: Can’t be because the timing doesn’t work unless he is saved either by Rumple or the Blue Fairy.
August knows too much re the curse and FTL not to be a major player. Yet he was able to arrive in Storybrooke. Which means he was able to leave or was never there to begin with until the day he showed up. If he was able to leave, he was unaffected by the curse (or there is a loophole we don’t know about yet). If he was never in SB to begin with, but is part of FTL, how did he escape the curse? Is he from one of the other worlds/realms that Jefferson mentions to Emma? If he is Peter Pan, he could have escaped the curse because he was visiting Wendy and et al at the time the curse was enacted but how would he know what he knows? I have the same question if he is a character from Oz. If they hadn’t shown Prince Thomas from FTL as Sean in SB I would venture to guess August is the missing Prince Thomas.
August as Pinocchio explains how he knows about the curse and Emma as the savior. Still doesn’t explain to me how he escaped the curse nor how Gepetto could possibly have helped him.
August as Rumple’s son can be explained how he escapes the curse (a little Rumple magic) but if Bael escapes FTL way before the curse how does he know what he knows?
So which character knows about the curse, knows about the savior and had a way to escape the curse without jeopardizing Emma’s escape?
April 4, 2012 at 12:21 am #140849lorem ipsumParticipantOk, I just thought of something else! Sorry, I know I’m rambling. Just trying to get my thoughts in order or hope someone can help me make sense of them!
In the Pilot, The Blue Fairy shows up with a magic tree that can be made into a wardrobe to save one person from the curse. Gepetto says he and his boy will make it. It is decided Snow will go through w/ baby in utero.
This episode, The Return, lists the Blue Fairy in the cast list. It is about Rumple and Bae in FTL.
In the Disney movie of Peter Pan, Peter Pan’s secret hideout is a tree, right?
Could it be the same tree?
Did the Blue Fairy take Bae through the tree to Neverland resulting in Rumple hating fairies and remarking that he “lost” his son?
April 4, 2012 at 12:24 am #140850kalliopekiseesParticipantCould be Bae and perhaps a member of the lost boys. Pan does not age. Lost boys age, but I think at a slower rate
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