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Henry’s faith

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season One › 1×21 "Apple Red as Blood" › Henry’s faith

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  • May 7, 2012 at 12:29 am #134414
    Slurpeez
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    Looks like August’s wooden arm was enough to convince Henry, who already believed, that the curse was real enough that he had to take drastic action. Only this time, his idea was to eat a poisoned apple turnover made by Chef Regina (as was predicted). Great thinking, Henry. Let’s hope Emma has enough belief to think that a mother’s kiss will save her son. I hope that Henry is going to be released from his sleeping curse in a similar fashion to how Prince Charming will save SW. I’m still wondering how Emma’s faith is going to be affected, and how this in turn, will affect everyone else. Since Emma merely believing in the curse isn’t enough to break it (to do that she must die), but perhaps merely believing is enough to cause everyone else to believe. I’m looking forward to seeing how that plays out next week and next season.

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    May 7, 2012 at 1:11 am #145719
    theoniongirl
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    You know … I’m not positive that “Emma merely believing in the curse isn’t enough to break it.” We now know (or believe, anyway … I don’t put a lie that that past Mr. Gold 😉 ) that if Emma dies, the curse is broken.

    But that doesn’t mean that’s the only way. It just means Regina can’t kill her.

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    May 7, 2012 at 3:45 am #145745
    songbird139
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    I agree with TheOnionGirl. I don’t believe that the only way to break the curse is to kill Emma. Mr. Gold has twisted his words with Regina before to manipulate her into doing his dirty work (hince the reason for the curse being used in the first place by someone other than himself.)

    I do like how you said, Slurpeez108, that Emma’s belief influences the others in Story Brooke. I am just wondering if Emma will have to take some flack for trying to hurt Henry. No one was in the room with Henry and Emma when he bit into the turnover. I see someone from Story Brooke walking and knocking on Emma’s apartment door right as Henry is falling, causing someone to become a witness to Henry’s being hurt but not able to witness how or why. I can also see Regina pinning it on Emma as a case of “If I can’t have him, then no one can.” I think it will be ironic when Regina tries to kiss Henry awake but fails; and then she has to beg Emma to try. A mother’s love for her child should work in this case because Emma and Henry love each other truly the way a mother and child do.

    May 7, 2012 at 6:33 am #145763
    Killian Jones
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    @songbird139 wrote:

    I agree with TheOnionGirl. I don’t believe that the only way to break the curse is to kill Emma. Mr. Gold has twisted his words with Regina before to manipulate her into doing his dirty work (hince the reason for the curse being used in the first place by someone other than himself.)

    I do like how you said, Slurpeez108, that Emma’s belief influences the others in Story Brooke. I am just wondering if Emma will have to take some flack for trying to hurt Henry. No one was in the room with Henry and Emma when he bit into the turnover. I see someone from Story Brooke walking and knocking on Emma’s apartment door right as Henry is falling, causing someone to become a witness to Henry’s being hurt but not able to witness how or why. I can also see Regina pinning it on Emma as a case of “If I can’t have him, then no one can.” I think it will be ironic when Regina tries to kiss Henry awake but fails; and then she has to beg Emma to try. A mother’s love for her child should work in this case because Emma and Henry love each other truly the way a mother and child do.

    I think that part was just made up by Rumple to keep Regina from trying to kill Emma. That way she can break the curse

    May 7, 2012 at 6:58 am #145765
    arjay369
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    Actually, Regina acted as she already knew Rumpel had put that clause regarding Emma into the curse. To me anyway, Regina wasn’t acting like someone who had just learned something had been kept from her.

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    May 7, 2012 at 10:24 am #145775
    Phee
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    @Arjay369 wrote:

    Actually, Regina acted as she already knew Rumpel had put that clause regarding Emma into the curse. To me anyway, Regina wasn’t acting like someone who had just learned something had been kept from her.

    For sure, otherwise she’d have just killed Emma by now, but she knows she can’t.

    I agree that Emma dying isn’t the only way to break the curse, it’s just that if she happens to die, the curse breaks. But I think that if she believes, the curse will also break.

    Hadn’t been expecting them to have Henry sacrifice himself knowingly, but the way it played out, it wasn’t as dark as I’d anticipated because he has complete faith that Emma will save him.

    May 7, 2012 at 11:54 am #145792
    mike
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    @songbird139 wrote:

    I agree with TheOnionGirl. I don’t believe that the only way to break the curse is to kill Emma. Mr. Gold has twisted his words with Regina before to manipulate her into doing his dirty work (hince the reason for the curse being used in the first place by someone other than himself.)

    I do like how you said, Slurpeez108, that Emma’s belief influences the others in Story Brooke. I am just wondering if Emma will have to take some flack for trying to hurt Henry. No one was in the room with Henry and Emma when he bit into the turnover. I see someone from Story Brooke walking and knocking on Emma’s apartment door right as Henry is falling, causing someone to become a witness to Henry’s being hurt but not able to witness how or why. I can also see Regina pinning it on Emma as a case of “If I can’t have him, then no one can.” I think it will be ironic when Regina tries to kiss Henry awake but fails; and then she has to beg Emma to try. A mother’s love for her child should work in this case because Emma and Henry love each other truly the way a mother and child do.

    Even if Emma confronts Regina about the poisoned apple turnover, Regina can just claim that she must have bought a bad apple.

    May 7, 2012 at 1:22 pm #145801
    Killian Jones
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    @Mike wrote:

    @songbird139 wrote:

    I agree with TheOnionGirl. I don’t believe that the only way to break the curse is to kill Emma. Mr. Gold has twisted his words with Regina before to manipulate her into doing his dirty work (hince the reason for the curse being used in the first place by someone other than himself.)

    I do like how you said, Slurpeez108, that Emma’s belief influences the others in Story Brooke. I am just wondering if Emma will have to take some flack for trying to hurt Henry. No one was in the room with Henry and Emma when he bit into the turnover. I see someone from Story Brooke walking and knocking on Emma’s apartment door right as Henry is falling, causing someone to become a witness to Henry’s being hurt but not able to witness how or why. I can also see Regina pinning it on Emma as a case of “If I can’t have him, then no one can.” I think it will be ironic when Regina tries to kiss Henry awake but fails; and then she has to beg Emma to try. A mother’s love for her child should work in this case because Emma and Henry love each other truly the way a mother and child do.

    Even if Emma confronts Regina about the poisoned apple turnover, Regina can just claim that she must have bought a bad apple.

    Idk that’s a lot stronger evidence than anything else they’ve had BUT how do u test for magic poison? Got a feeling there’s gonna be blame thrown on Emma claiming some kind of nonsense.

    May 7, 2012 at 1:56 pm #145803
    killianhookfan
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    I have the feeling this is going to be the way we get around my big problem with the adoption issue. If Henry’s life is in jeopardy and Regina truely loves him, maybe the way Emma will finally believe is that Regina will admit that the apple was poisoned (after all if Dr. Whale is working for her he would need to know that) and then Emma will know that Regina really is the Evil Queen. If Emma believes and then the curse is broken – technically everything is kind of up for grabs and life as they have known it in SB really doesn’t exist anymore because everyone would remember who they were. So really then I guess Henry wouldn’t technically be Regina’s son anymore. He would be a prince as the son of Princess Emma and the Grandson of Snow and Charming. I think I could be okay with that scenario because then Henry would be taking his place with his Fairy Tale family just like all the other characters are going back to their Fairy Tale personas.

    May 7, 2012 at 11:16 pm #145866
    hjbau
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    I don’t think they have time in the episode to try and pretend to blame Emma. I think it is all going to come down to what do we do to make it right.

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