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Only Read if you watched all of Season 1:
1) Who is the fairest of them all?:
Pilot – Snow to Charming:
Snow says to Charming:
“She poisoned an apple because she thought I was prettier than her. You have no idea what she’s capable of”The story didn’t pan out that way, and did Snow ever have a reason to actually think this? I hope the writers come up with a way explain this (perhaps Snow keeping the truth from Charming?)
2) Hearts snatched out in fairy tale land – is there any magical law that governs this?:
a) Regina’s Dad drops down dead.
b) Regina’s fiancee doesn’t die until the heart is crushed, but is incapacititated as its pulled out.
c) Huntsman retains free will and is not incapacitated.
d) Why could Emma ‘feel’ Graham’s heart in the real world?’
e) Did Regina wish to snatch out Snow White’s heart and keep her alive or kill her? How are we to know?3) Sleeping Curse(s):
a) How many are there? If Malificent stole one, is this the one from Sleeping Beauty that puts everyone to sleep, or is this the apple that the ginger bread house witch had?
b) Did Snow White need to be read a disclaimer for the apple to work, or was that just the Queen enjoying her knowing? After all, Emma didn’t get a disclaimer, and Regina expected it to work.What others can you think of?
[adrotate group="5"]4) Pilot: Prince Charming to his guards: “I’ve sent my men into the forest. The Animals are abuzz with the queen’s plan.”
This seems to be a reference to Disney fairy tales, but we have yet to see a talking animal in this series. Or am I mistaken?
@helpmeunderstandthis wrote:
Only Read if you watched all of Season 1:
1) Who is the fairest of them all?:
Pilot – Snow to Charming:
Snow says to Charming:
“She poisoned an apple because she thought I was prettier than her. You have no idea what she’s capable of”I think that was just a throw-back to the original Snow White cartoon. That was the sole reason why the Evil Queen hated her, because the Magic Mirror declared that she was prettier than her. So really, the Disney Snow White was essentially a ‘beauty contest.’ OUAT gave it more depth though.
@obisgirl wrote:
@helpmeunderstandthis wrote:
Only Read if you watched all of Season 1:
1) Who is the fairest of them all?:
Pilot – Snow to Charming:
Snow says to Charming:
“She poisoned an apple because she thought I was prettier than her. You have no idea what she’s capable of”I think that was just a throw-back to the original Snow White cartoon. That was the sole reason why the Evil Queen hated her, because the Magic Mirror declared that she was prettier than her. So really, the Disney Snow White was essentially a ‘beauty contest.’ OUAT gave it more depth though.
That was actually the point of the original fairy tale. The evil queen was vain and didn’t like the mirror stating Snow White was fairer than she. The evil queen tried to kill snow three different ways and the apple stuck, literally. The ending to the actual fairy tale is different than the Disney movie, as well. The evil queen is forced to wear iron shoes that had been heated in an oven and dance in them until she dropped dead.
5) If the Genie’s Lamp could grant wishes after the Genie was freed, then could Regina take control of the lamp afterward, or would it need a new genie? Does anyone remember if it disappeared after the 3rd wish? How does a lamp work without a genie?
6) If Rumple only regained his memories when he heard Emma’s name name at Granny’s upon her first visit (as the Creators asserted in an interview), then did he unwittingly arrange Henry’s adoption without any memories of FTW?
@Arjay369 wrote:
@obisgirl wrote:
@helpmeunderstandthis wrote:
Only Read if you watched all of Season 1:
1) Who is the fairest of them all?:
Pilot – Snow to Charming:
Snow says to Charming:
“She poisoned an apple because she thought I was prettier than her. You have no idea what she’s capable of”I think that was just a throw-back to the original Snow White cartoon. That was the sole reason why the Evil Queen hated her, because the Magic Mirror declared that she was prettier than her. So really, the Disney Snow White was essentially a ‘beauty contest.’ OUAT gave it more depth though.
That was actually the point of the original fairy tale. The evil queen was vain and didn’t like the mirror stating Snow White was fairer than she. The evil queen tried to kill snow three different ways and the apple stuck, literally. The ending to the actual fairy tale is different than the Disney movie, as well. The evil queen is forced to wear iron shoes that had been heated in an oven and dance in them until she dropped dead.
4 continued) Realizing Snow’s statement was a nod to the other versions of the story, my question is whether her statement can fit in Once Upon A Time’s world without being a contradiction of the script.
7) Do we believe that Emma actually had a super power of being able to detect lies, but was in denial with Sydney, moreover choosing not to use it in her varous investigations, as well as every time Regina tricked her? Or did she make the whole thing up?
8) If it was Emma’s 28th Birthday that Henry showed up, and she gave him up for adoption 10 years prior, it is safe to assume she was 17 when he was conceived, yes? I feel like I’ve seen it discussed that she was 18. Nothing wrong with being 17, but depending on the state, wonder if Henry was illegally conceived :-p Massachusetts’ laws are ambiguous at quick glance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Massachusetts . She’d be fine in Maine however :-p Did the writers intend for her to conceive at 17, which seems controversial for a family show? I personally have no ethical problem with conception at any age, if it’s an ethical conception to begin with, but just wondering.
9) Rumple is a perspicacious guy, so must we assume he was in denial about Belle not loving him, and not using his intellect, because since she was turning him back into a man and erasing the ‘dark one’, their love must have been true and mutual, right? I don’t understand why such a smart character would not realize that she couldn’t be ‘tricking’ him because if her love was disingenuous, the kiss would never break his ‘curse’ of being the dark one. So is this an inconsistent character trait, or is it that when it comes to love, Rumple always gets it wrong?
4 continued) Realizing Snow’s statement was a nod to the other versions of the story, my question is whether her statement can fit in Once Upon A Time’s world without being a contradiction of the script.
You are right about that. As seen in the last two episodes, Snow learned why Regina did not like her and it wasn’t because Regina thought Snow was prettier. This inconsistency could be because the writers changed the direction of the show. Early on, someone else was supposed to play Maleficent but the writers changed gears and Kristin Bauer was given the role. I don’t know if this next difference has anything to do with the direction change, but the Blind Witch seen in “The Thing You Love Most” is different than the one in the episode featuring Hansel and Gretel. Without knowing the specifics of what the show’s direction may have been, I can’t say anything for sure but yeah, that statement from the pilot does contradict what’s been stated in later episodes.
10) Did Henry ever mention in the show that nobody ages?
Whether or not he did, this is what is understood, correct?
This would of course been most obvious to him with his classmates, and the kids younger than him that he eventually out-grew. (The 7 year olds that were older than him when he was 5 were younger than him when he was 10).
This presents a problem for Regina – are we to assume the following: Henry was aware no one aged, Regina was aware he was aware, his memories were always left intact, and that the only reason he hasn’t tried to escape from her sooner is his dependance on adults, as well as an ignorance of reality – having grown up in a town where no one grows up but him? (Where’s Tink? :-p)
Is it just me, or has the ‘no one grows up’ part of the script not really been addressed as it should have been?
Shouldn’t have Henry blatantly stated: there were kids who were older than me who are now younger than me?
Or would he realize this would make him look too crazy …
Or perhaps his memory altered as well ..11) Did anyone else get as confused as I did – until Graham was killed – about Mayor Regina’s knowledge of the curse and FTL? Although everyone on these forums insists of course she remembered everything because it was her curse, I wasn’t so sure until she finally showed viewers she knew by going into the chamber beneath her father’s tomb. I got a very strong sense of purposeful ambiguity, like Wizard of Oz (was it real or just a dream?) or stories where there’s never concrete proof something wasn’t just someone’s imagination.
And I loved that feeling of ambiguity, as one could until that episode always rationalize why the Mayor was upset / ruthless without needing to concede that she remembered her former identity.
What I didn’t appreciate was that the narrator of the opening sequence of the show for the first several episodes said “only one person knows, and only one can stop her”. I felt like he spoiled one of the most dramatic secrets kept from viewers until the Graham crushed-heart episode. [and more than one person knew … it looks like 4-5 in Storybrooke knew: Regina, Henry, Gold (kept a secret at first), August (kept a secret at first), and possibly Jefferson. So the narrator also fed false information]
Is anyone with me on this? Imagine the narrator never said that. Was there anything in the script that made it obvious that Mayor Regina knew she was the queen before we finally see her use magic? I loved that episode so much because until then, she didn’t necessarily seem evil. Do you agree that purposely keeping it ambiguous would have been effective? Was I just foolishly mis-remembering the scene when she asserted to Rumple he wouldn’t remember, and my vague memory generalized that she wouldn’t remember either? Because I get the feeling that if we shared this show with a newcomer and muted the opening narrater, that people would be asking: “does she know?” each and every eipsode, until that heart-crushing episode. Until that epsisode, the show seemed to take great lengths to never let us see Regina, even alone, reveal that she ‘knew’ anything about FTL.
I chose to ignore the narrator until that episode, and considered it a poor editing choice.
What’s your take?
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