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So, after watching the season finale and watching Emma restore Henry back to life and breaking the curse with her mother’s “true love” kiss, there is one thing that somewhat bothers me, and I wonder if they will ever address this later in the series.
I’m completely content with Emma’s kiss breaking the curse, I’m sure that it was the first time in her life where she completely allowed and was able to love someone unselfishly. With her upbringing and her always running away from those that cared for her I doubt that she loved someone as “true” as she did in that moment in the hospital. (Sure, she loved Henry prior, but she was only thinking of herself when she tried to take him away).
BUT, the thing that bothers me is if it only takes the parent’s “true loves kiss” to break a curse, then why didn’t this happen between Rumpel and Bae? I think we can all agree that Rumpel LOVES his son more than anything in the world, the Blue Fairy even said it was Bae that was keeping him somewhat human, and yet the curse was never broken between them?
Is it because Rumpel was actually not “willing” to lose his powers, so he didn’t “truly” love Bae for the curse to get broken, or is it simply because Rumpel never kissed his son? haha
What are your thoughts? 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]Did Bae really love his father in his Dark One state considering how frightened/disappointed he was in him? It seemed like Belle loved Rumpy anyway (not like she had known him any way) but thought she could further improve his life. Charming was still willing to die for Snow White in her darkened state with just the hope of her remembering and loving him again.
I think in the series finale, Baelfire will tell Belle to kiss Rumpel, thus breaking his father’s curse. 😉 Baelfire’s goal was to find a way to break to his father’s curse without killing him. This is the perfect solution to that. We’ve already seen that Belle’s kiss has the power to break Rumpel’s curse in “Skin Deep.” So, I wouldn’t be surprised if Baelfire ends up playing matchmaker and asks Belle to kiss his father.
I’ve been wondering about the same thing in Mother Superior/Blue Fairy thread. I’m leaning towards the theory that it is a plot hole. I think Bae did love his dad despite his Dark One form. That is why he took such desperate measures to save Rumple from himself. I think Rumple might have been able to resist the transformation, but the Blue Fairy should at least have had the decency to tell Bae about that possibility instead of straight away sending him to another world . He could have tried true love’s kiss first without telling his dad why he is kissing him.
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I’ve been wondering about the same thing in Mother Superior/Blue Fairy thread. I’m leaning towards the theory that it is a plot hole. I think Bae did love his dad despite his Dark One form. That is why he took such desperate measures to save Rumple from himself. I think Rumple might have been able to resist the transformation, but the Blue Fairy should at least have had the decency to tell Bae about that possibility instead of straight away sending him to another world . He could have tried true love’s kiss first without telling his dad why he is kissing him.
I concur, the Blue Fairy out of everyone should have known about True Love’s kiss “before it became the hip thing to know”. 🙄
Even if it is a plot hole, it bothers me because it’s something so dynamic to the plot, and without a proper explanation as in to why this wouldn’t have worked on Rumpel and Bae we could just assume that if this were to happen, that we wouldn’t even have a show haha.
I don’t know…. I’ve been wracking my brain to come up with a proper explanation, and the only one I can really lean against is perhaps like oncescape said about Belle actually accepting Rumpel for who he is (even if she was trying to somewhat change him) as opposed to Bae who didn’t love his father’s new form, but his former self. (I can’t blame the kid though) haha.
Who know… I just hope the writers explain this because it’s bothering me. 0.o
There’s also the possibility that the true love potion gave Emma unusual powers in Storybrooke (and in my mind, will continue to since that’s the magic permeating the place now.) Perhaps normally parent/child love ISN’T usable but because the magic in Storybrooke is basically designed to respond to Emma, it worked.
Regina seemed pretty shocked, which suggests parent/child love would not have EVER worked in the Enchanted Forest.
Then we just have the fact that Rumpel’s story with Baelfire preceeds every thing else in the timeline by centuries. Types of magic can apparently come and go (they couldn’t make more magic beans, they can’t make more enchanted trees). Perhaps True Love’s kiss was not a power that existed at the time.
This is a really good question. Surely the Original Power would know about the kiss, and if the BF really is on the side of what’s right, how could she not want to take an easy opportunity to free a wreched soul and eliminate the Dark One from FTL? How could the kiss not be preferable to sending a 14-year-old to a foreign land alone, unprepared and with no way home?
The only explanation I can come up with is that FTL needs a Dark One to counterbalance Regina. The BF would’ve known Rumple would chicken out and not go through the vortex, so with Rumple and Bae separated, there would be no chance of Rumple receiving true love’s kiss.
I hope we’ll get a scene in which Rumple learns about the kiss. It would be very informative to see how he reaacts when he realizes the BF withheld information. If Rumple goes ballistic, we’ll know he would’ve accepted the kiss and allowed it to change him. If he doesn’t, it may be because he is admitting to himself he wouldn’t have allowed the change. If the second scenario is true, that still makes the BF a liar : one who tricked Bae in order to separate him from his father.
If it turns out that the kiss clause wasn’t in effect at the time Bae was still in FTL, it will seem to me like the writers are taking the easy way out of a plot hole.
Well it is rather unusual for a young son to kiss his dad even on the forehead (ie not something that would readily occur to the writers as a possible solution for the Dark One Curse). There is also the possibility that Rumbel made the deal with his son believing that there was no other way to break the dark one curse in existence. As a result, the magic would have to be stripped from him, which didn’t possible without killing him.
In addition, maybe he didn’t truly love his son in an unselfish way. It might have been more of a possessive form of love ala Regina’s love for Henry. With Belle, it came about naturally and existed without thought. So if Rumbel falls back into his old possessive and selfish form of love, it might prevent a Belle kiss from working.
I don’t think this will be the case, though, because we can see that Rumbel has grown as a character sense he lost Belle. He was perfectly willing to give up his powers for Bae, which I think means that he wouldn’t have gone through with bringing magic to SB even if it resulted in everyone being unable to return to FTL. I wonder if the bringing of magic will return the evil of the dark one to Rumpel resulting in a regression of sorts.
Well, in any case, the final scene seems to tell us one thing: Rumpel is still a coward since the primary reason he gives for bringing Magic into the world is give himself power. Doesn’t matter that there are other and better reasons for bringing magic: protecting himself and Belle, finding Bae, maybe opening up the possibility of returning the characters back to FTL, taking down Regina (admittedly, this one wasn’t necessary before the addition of magic). I think we are going to see a three faction war here with Belle trying to keep Rumbel working with rather than against Team Snow.
Just a side note: Isn’t this so Middle Ages, all of FTL is torn apart with dashed Happy Endings all because of fighting within the “Royal” family. Seriously the main fighting characters in this (James and Snow’s family’s) are technically related in a family tree more akin to a Soap Opera. 😆 Ah but we love it so.
PS @Darcyfarrow Oh boy, what is if the BF loosely planned this whole thing. 😆 I doubt it, but she does seem to be the manipulative type. And let’s face it, SW and PC wouldn’t have succeeded in getting together without Rumpel. Then again, the SW story would be drastically different from the very beginning without Rumpel. Dang, I think I just blew my own mind with that thought.
Perhaps the BF knew that Rumpel didn’t really want to get rid of his powers, so the kiss wouldn’t have worked anyways. It’s not till after Bae leaves that something inside of him clicks and he starts to become “semi- redeemed”.
With Belle it’s more of a romantic love, something that he did WANT, so I could see how that would have worked, but not Bae kissing him solely in effort to change him.
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