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August 8, 2012 at 5:12 pm #134797Daniel J. LewisKeymaster
We’re going to do a podcast episode tonight (August 8) all about Dr. Whale. Who do you think he is? What have you observed that may be evidence to his identity?
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[adrotate group="5"]August 8, 2012 at 5:35 pm #152929SlurpeezParticipantI’m guessing Dr. Whale is the powerful wizard who gave Granny the enchanted cloak for Red so she wouldn’t phase into a wolf. The main reason is that Dr. Whale is linked to Ruby in SB, so it seems like they’re linked in FTL. Also, a doctor can treat ailments with medicine in our world like a wizard could with magic in FTL.
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August 8, 2012 at 5:40 pm #152930midnight drearyParticipantI’m going to say he’s Oz. I don’t have any real evidence for this theory except that Dr. Whale and Oz have the same hair color. 😆
August 8, 2012 at 7:20 pm #152935PriceofMagicParticipantI’m guessing Dr Whale is the giant from Jack and the Beanstalk because Whale is another word for giant and we know Jack is being introduced this season.
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Keeper of FelixAugust 8, 2012 at 7:27 pm #152936PheeParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
I’m guessing Dr. Whale is the powerful wizard who gave Granny the enchanted cloak for Red so she wouldn’t phase into a wolf. The main reason is that Dr. Whale is linked to Ruby in SB, so it seems like they’re linked in FTL. Also, a doctor can treat ailments with medicine in our world like a wizard could with magic in FTL.
What slurpeez said. 😀 Only thing I’d add is that the specific wizard would be Merlin.
If you want to discuss other theories people have had, in case no one else sends this one in, (it’s not my theory, but is one of the more interesting ones I’ve seen), there’s also been some discussion about him possibly being Gulliver. There’s a bit on wikipedia about the character having had a history of studying medicine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemuel_Gulliver This theory also accounts for the name Whale as a reference to how he would have appeared to be a beached whale to the people of Lilliput when he washed ashore there.
Whoever he is, I doubt they can put off the reveal for much longer, now that everyone will be walking around Storybrooke remembering who they are. Will people still be using their Storybrooke names, or their real names? I can’t really see Charming calling Snow by the name Mary Margaret, (and by the same token, I assume this will be how we’ll find out Charming’s real first name, when someone uses it instead of calling him David), and if real names are being used, it would be out of place for him to still be referred to as Dr Whale. Even if people do still use their Storybrooke names, their actions and allegiances will be influenced by their true identities, so either way, they can’t really show him much without revealing some major hints as to who he is, so I don’t think we’ll have to wait too long to find out.
August 8, 2012 at 7:32 pm #152939elleParticipantWhoever he is, I think the Blue Fairy may know. Before Emma asked about why they haven’t returned to Fairytale Land, The Blue Fairy looks at him, and she looks almost concerned.
Also, I know this has already been said, but I doubt he is evil just from how stunned he looked when he remembered everything. And if he were loyal to Regina, he would have followed after her. Though he could have worked for her and just not be loyal. 😆 But something in the way he looked and held himself, he looked just as lost as everyone. And if were truly evil, why would Regina make him forget? He would have been more useful remembering.
August 8, 2012 at 7:51 pm #152940PheeParticipant@Elle wrote:
Also, I know this has already been said, but I doubt he is evil just from how stunned he looked when he remembered everything. And if he were loyal to Regina, he would have followed after her. Though he could have worked for her and just not be loyal. 😆 But something in the way he looked and held himself, he looked just as lost as everyone. And if were truly evil, why would Regina make him forget? He would have been more useful remembering.
When I thought he was one of the bad guys, (which was my opinion of him for the whole first season), I never thought he was a big bad. I likened him to Sidney, the DA, and poor sweet Graham…people who Regina had in her pocket back in FTL, so she kept them close for the same purposes in Storybrooke. None of them remembered who they were, but they were bound to do her bidding.
I think Dr Whale’s apparent anguish when the curse broke is a hint that he wasn’t always a minion of Regina’s though. I think he was having an, “OMG, I’ve been working for that evil WITCH?! That completely betrays the person I truly am!” kind of moment.
If she wasn’t keeping him close in Storybrooke because he’d previously been her minion, her other motivation may have been because he was a rival of hers in FTL. One of those “keep your friends close and your enemies closer” type of situations. I think this could lend credence to the Merlin theory, because someone of Merlin’s stature likely would have been in direct opposition to Regina, and he’d have had powers to match hers and fight back if necessary. Of course she’d want to keep someone like that under her control in Storybrooke.
August 8, 2012 at 9:14 pm #152941JosephineParticipantI think he’s either Prince Eric or Gulliver. I’m now leaning toward Gulliver since he was a surgeon who became a sailor and was a “whale” of a person compared to the Lilliputians.
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August 8, 2012 at 9:20 pm #152942Daniel J. LewisKeymasterI love these theories! I’ll be quoting from this forum a lot in tonight’s podcast.
August 8, 2012 at 9:52 pm #152943elleParticipantThat is a possibility. I had at first entertained the idea he wasn’t good–not evil, though–given some of his actions and the way he acted around others. He seemed to almost look down on Mary Margaret, even before they dated–in Snow Falls, she had talked to him about how David had grabbed her arm, and he seemed rudely dismissive. Then we have the dates with Mary Margaret, where he treated her badly. He also reported to Regina.
Yet he does have moments where he interacts with people and is very sociable. He went to Mary Margaret’s party in The Return, and he seemed friendly with many of the guests. He seems to overall be charming and confident, from his few scenes in the series and in the Singlebrooke video. If Regina wanted his help, then that means he might have either been someone very powerful, or someone that she hated and wanted to make miserable.
He could have also worked with Regina in Fairytale Land–he might have been forced, similar to the Genie. And The DA and Regina did not seem to be hated enemies. She gave him gold, and he gave her Prince Charming–they both seem to do buisness with each other, given how familiar they are with one another,
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