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November 1, 2012 at 2:31 am #135220obisgirlParticipant
The world that he came from was never specifically named in the episode. I thought it was Transylvania but I think I was mixing up horror stories. Count Dracula takes places in Transylvania (which I think is in modern day Romania). So obviously Frankenstein can’t be from there. So, where if he from?
[adrotate group="5"]November 1, 2012 at 2:38 am #158837melliemdParticipantI don’t think it’s that specific. As we see with “The Enchanted Forest” world, it’s expansive and covers various realms, seas, countries — it’s an entire world. Many of the characters in fairytale flashback refer to it as a full world, so it should be assumed that other realms are full worlds just like our’s and the fairytale world. So for Frankenstein, him and his castle is just a segment of the world, a Gothic Horror world. So he has his home location, but across the world there’s Transylvania and Dracula, in another part of the world comes other gothic horror stories etc.
November 1, 2012 at 2:38 am #158838doctor whoParticipantIn the original book, I believe it is Geneva.
My guess is that his world is filled with various other classic horror characters, such as Dracula.
November 1, 2012 at 3:00 am #158841obisgirlParticipantBut Geneva is a real place in our world.
November 1, 2012 at 3:12 am #158844melliemdParticipantBut this is in a different version of our world. Much fiction – from the characters to the places – are derived or are completely taken from “our” world. But why couldn’t there be connections between the worlds? Similarities, differences.
This would be the Gothic Horror version of our world, The Enchanted Forest is the Fairytale Version of our world… Or I guess another way to say it is that we are the version of The Enchanted Forest with no magic.
November 1, 2012 at 11:45 am #158870doctor whoParticipant@obisgirl wrote:
But Geneva is a real place in our world.
I never said in the show it was Geneva. I said in the ORIGINAL BOOK, it was Geneva.
Like I said, I believe it’s a world filled with various classic horror characters like Dracula, Frankenstein(obviously), the creature from the black lagoon, and so forth. Would be cool to see some of them brought into the story. Dracula would be awesome to see.
November 1, 2012 at 12:24 pm #158873TheGoldenKeyParticipantI’ve posted about this many times before on other threads. His world is the “fictional” Transylvania, the Transylvania from monster movies. When we hear the name Transylvania, that’s where our minds are automatically transported. Doesn’t matter if there is a real Transylvania. The writers can take anything real and make it fictional. I brought up Jane Espenson’s tweet about this, last night in live chat. Someone asked Jane how could Dr. Whale be Dr. Frankie when he was based on a real character. She answered this. “Dracula based on real person. Hook certainly drew from legends of real pirates. Alice in wonderland was Alice Lydell.”
Why would she throw out the name Dracula? Probably because we’ll be seeing him. In my Frankenstein theory, I’ve mentioned the Christopher Lee, 1966 movie, Dracula: Prince of Darkness. Dracula, Frankenstein & the Wolfman have been in 4 classic horror movies. Dracula always controls Frankenstein.
So Victor’s world, is a classic horror world, one of which the 1930 movies were made, a world in black & white only, a fictional Transylvania, where Dracula is their Prince/Ruler and where most likely, Ruby’s family migrated from.
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November 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm #158879crest1994ParticipantI don’t think they can call it Transylvania as it’s a real place. Transylvania is a state/region in Romania, just as Scotland is a State/region in the UK, and Ohio is a State/region in the US.
When Lancelot mentioned his land, it wasn’t called Britain, it will just go unnamed similar to Lancelot’s Kingdom.
November 1, 2012 at 1:46 pm #158881TheGoldenKeyParticipant@Crest1994 wrote:
I don’t think they can call it Transylvania as it’s a real place. Transylvania is a state/region in Romania, just as Scotland is a State/region in the UK, and Ohio is a State/region in the US.
When Lancelot mentioned his land, it wasn’t called Britain, it will just go unnamed similar to Lancelot’s Kingdom.
I said “fictional” Transylvania. Big difference Crest. Adam Horowitz tweeted that it doesn’t matter what we think something is based on, work is fictional. Transylvania is always “fictionally” thought of as a monster’s world.
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November 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm #158882RumplesGirlKeymasterI agree with GoldenKey. There are two Transylvania’s, the real one that we can actually go to, and the stylized fictional one of novels, that doesn’t exist in reality, but exists in the imagination of writer and reader. It’s like Mulan: she’s a Chinese character, and I’m going to guess if we ever see her backstory, her land will look very medieval China, but it won’t be CHINA per se.
I’ve taken to calling Frankie’s world: “Horror Land” (I know H and K called it a world without color) because of it’s obvious 1930s horror landscape callbacks. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a swamp creature, a mummy, and Dracula."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love" -
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