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Anyone else feel like that speech was a load of crap? I mean, we’ve all seen how Regina wants to kill her mom and she’s obviously the real one to blame for Daniel’s death, so that silly speech she had over Cora’s ‘dead’ body about how she was her weakness cause she still loves her… biggest ooc moment ever if that was real. Anyone with me on the theory that somehow she knew Cora was alive and just wanted her to not follow her or something?
(seriously, I’ll take any theory that makes this speech not be real. It’s just bad writing in my opinion if it is).[adrotate group="5"]Regina could be so messed up from her mom’s abuse that she believed she did love her and that Cora only did what she did out of love. Regina would not be where she is today if it weren’t for Cora.
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Keeper of FelixInteresting, I found that speech believable because seemingly it was making so little sense (to me it made a lot of sense). Regina is emotionally so confused. It’s a love-hate relationship she has with her mother. Regina knew, that her mother still could make her do things, no matter how much she at the same time might hate her. Love is weakness in this case not because Regina cares in any positive, healthy sense about her mother, but Regina never stopped craving for her approval, her affection, that is the grip on her heart, Cora had, and Cora still has. Getting approval of your parents, as daughter especially of a mother is a strong motivator to do a lot of things you otherwise would even despise doing. Regina had her plans with the Dark Curse and she certainly didn’t want to be distracted by being tempted to please her mom in any way. Regina knew, she wasn’t free of that wish to please her as long as Cora was alive.
Very sure Regina believed Cora was dead, that was the moment she and Rumple were talking about in the episode before at the dinner, that she saw Cora’s dead body.
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@myril wrote:
Interesting, I found that speech believable because seemingly it was making so little sense (to me it made a lot of sense). Regina is emotionally so confused. It’s a love-hate relationship she has with her mother. .
I agree. I always thought part of the explanation for why Regina blamed Snow for Daniel’s death was that on some level she just couldn’t bring herself to hate her mother even though Cora was clearly the one responsible. It was easier to blame the innocent little girl she barely knew.
“Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of little children.”
– William Makepeace ThackerayAfter everything that had happen, Cora was still Regina’s mother, I hope that speech came from the hearth.
@myril wrote:
Interesting, I found that speech believable because seemingly it was making so little sense (to me it made a lot of sense). Regina is emotionally so confused. It’s a love-hate relationship she has with her mother. Regina knew, that her mother still could make her do things, no matter how much she at the same time might hate her. Love is weakness in this case not because Regina cares in any positive, healthy sense about her mother, but Regina never stopped craving for her approval, her affection, that is the grip on her heart, Cora had, and Cora still has. Getting approval of your parents, as daughter especially of a mother is a strong motivator to do a lot of things you otherwise would even despise doing. Regina had her plans with the Dark Curse and she certainly didn’t want to be distracted by being tempted to please her mom in any way. Regina knew, she wasn’t free of that wish to please her as long as Cora was alive.
Very sure Regina believed Cora was dead, that was the moment she and Rumple were talking about in the episode before at the dinner, that she saw Cora’s dead body.
Well said, I completely agree.
It actually illustrates quite nicely how she was able to justify her dysfunctional relationship with Henry. If Regina still had a certain affection for Cora, even after everything she’d done, then it was fair enough for her to assume that Henry would have affection for her, even if he seemed miserable and lashed out at her and said he hated her.
It’s the “I have to say something nice over the dead” speech. I didn’t like that scene very much. We all know that Queen Regina was only thinking of herself always. I do think she loved her father, but even he needed to go.
I’ll agree that it could just be that Regina’s a seriously disfunctional person but… well the scene didn’t feel right to me. Every word felt out of character and she didn’t look sincere to me either (and I know Lana’s a brilliant actress so it can hardly be that I just didn’t like her acting in the scene).
I suppose it could be as myril said, that she just meant that she was striving for her approval, but even then the speech feels over the top to me :/What myril said.
Mother is god in the eyes of a child, and no matter how crappy parents you have you still want to please them.Nightreader, on the contrary to your OP, Regina didn’t want to kill her mom. Or well she wanted to, but she couldn’t herself. Otherwise she would have done that instead of banished Cora to Wonderland.
And as far as she knew, Cora killed Daniel, and when we saw her trying on her wedding dress she was obviously still effected by the shock. And when Snow told her she had told Cora about Daniel, you could see how Regina just snapped. She was already very emotionally effected and Snow’s confession just made it worse, and in her mind Snow was the one to blame.@Nightreader wrote:
I’ll agree that it could just be that Regina’s a seriously disfunctional person but… well the scene didn’t feel right to me. Every word felt out of character and she didn’t look sincere to me either (and I know Lana’s a brilliant actress so it can hardly be that I just didn’t like her acting in the scene).
I suppose it could be as myril said, that she just meant that she was striving for her approval, but even then the speech feels over the top to me :/I agree. The scene was very out of character. It felt like the writers were trying to retcon the Evil Queen’s character by adding this little scene to make her look more sympathetic.
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