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So according to spoilers we will have a very revealing flashback that will send a chill down our spine!!! And we will start to question who the real big bad is on the show…This has got me on obsession mode!!! Im freaked out 😮 in a good way 😆 What do you guys think? Who is the original bad? I have a theory and I hope to hear yours…
The BIG BAD is: Blue fairy, or someone connected to BF!!
REASONS TO THINK THIS:
1) Blue Fairy has lied before, she is not 100% pure (the case of the wardrobe), she manipulates events. She has a dark side (Manipulated Gold into believing August was his son, Also remember how she treated separated Nova/Grumpy) ,2) In the episode where Blue; gives Baelfire the magic bean to open the portal to the land without magic, she tells bae the following:” You are the part that keeps him human, that little light inside of him that still glows, its you”….SO what if it Blue’s plan all along was to make Rumple really evil/dark, so he would create the curse to get to the land without magic…MAYBE Blue or someone she works for, wants something in our world, but could not get to it….
3) So as a way to kill the “light” inside of Rumple, she needed to separate father/son….How, Could she have done it? SMART MANIPULATION….What if, Blue talked to Morraine, and made her tell baelfire about the “blue star” the most powerful in all the land; So that Bae would contact her, then once talking to Bae, she “suggested” the solution of realm jumping, and going to a place without magic, where Rumple’s magic would not work….The Blue Fairy has lied before, and maybe there was another solution other than realm jumping, (Belle was breaking Rumple’s curse by true love’s kiss after all)…Once Baelfire was “sold” on this idea because he wants his papa back =( ; The plan was in motion, Blue Fairy, the “original power” knows Rumple is a coward and will have a hard time going through the portal, SO Blue fairy hidden in the trees accelerated the closing of the portal on purpose when Bae fell…. because she WANTED Rumple to be alone/angry/dark; She then cleverly lets rumple get to the conclusion of the curse as a solution (why didn’t she tell him about the enchanted tree???/ beanstalk ,Anton had the bean stem to grow more beans..) ….Sneaky manipulation to get Rumple “the dark one” to go to the land without magic VIA curse…WHY??? That is the question…Why through a curse…I believe the curse broke a thin veil/barrier between realms, a protection of sorts, now any evil can come through….
4) It would be interesting for Rumple, “the master manipulator” to have been a pawn all along for a greater evil purpose….be it the Blue Fairy, or someone she works for maybe the fairy king “Oberon”, or some other villain….
5) The Blue Fairy stopped the arrows that would kill Regina…WHY? because she is good and wanted to do Snow’s will? MAYBE or because she wants the curse to take place??
6) The Blue Fairy, Fabricated the quill with squid ink, that imprisons Rumple after he sings the contract with Cinderella.
7) FUN Fact, I read in the forums that the role was originally offered to Lady Gaga!! 😉 ….who better to play the fine line between pure goodness and pure evil….she is fierce, and can look ultra glam or ultra scary….lolz 😆
[adrotate group="5"]Ever since the blue fairy made this look while Baelfire looked down after being given the bean
I’ve been suspicious of her true motives. I think it would be interesting for Rumple to realize that he himself was a pawn too. Good theories!
I always thought that the Blue Fairy could be evil, but someone on another thread said that the directors stated in an interview that she is not evil. So unless they were lying, I guess she is good.
One of the articles related to this spoiler says:
We’ve been assuming Cora, Hook and Regina were Storybrooke’s biggest baddest bads, but a stirred up memory of a fateful event coupled with the episode’s final seconds leave us wondering if we’ve been looking in the wrong direction.
http://www.screenspy.com/editorials/5-things-to-know-about-once-upon-a-times-manhattan/
To me, that screams Blue. “Looking in the wrong direction” implies someone who is considered to be on the opposing side of the baddies. So they must be talking about someone who is considered good. And if they’re calling them the BIG bad, it’s gotta be someone in a position of power and influence. There’s no one who fits that bill more perfectly than Blue.If it’s gonna be a “spine chilling” twist, then it has to be the person who the general viewing audience would least suspect. Again, Blue fits that bill.
I do believe that K&H have said that Blue is one of the good guys, (don’t recall exactly where or when they said it, but I do remember seeing it somewhere), but I don’t think this necessarily excludes her from being the subject of these spoilers. We don’t know yet what exactly the twist is. It may be something that the reviewers perceived as being an indication of the ultimate big bad, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s gonna be something that’s cut and dried, straight up evil that we see happen.
I’ve always figured that Blue has done what she deems “right” in order to achieve the long term “good” for the maximum amount of people. That doesn’t mean that her actions are all pure though, so I find it believable that we could see her do something at the end of this ep where our initial reaction will be, “OMG how could she do that, she’s so horrible,” but in the grand scheme of things, her actions may still be for the greater good in some way, even if only in her own mind.
@Kranen wrote:
Except Keegan isn’t listed in the cast list.
Neither is Eion, even though reports say that August will make an appearance.
@baelish wrote:
Ever since the blue fairy made this look while Baelfire looked down after being given the bean
I’ve been suspicious of her true motives. I think it would be interesting for Rumple to realize that he himself was a pawn too. Good theories!
The BF does have a devious look on her face when she gives Baelfire “the last bean” in the EF. I have wondered in the back of my mind ever since The Return, exactly what her intentions are. She and August seem to have a pretty tight bond, so maybe he’s been her lackey on this side of SB ever since. Yet, I’m also inclined to believe Eddy and Adam would never outright lie to us about her being a protagonist. She may have a very utilitarian view of things (e.g. keeping Nova and Grumpy apart for the “great good” of the EF), but I don’t think that makes her evil. Perhaps, as Phee suggested, however, her good intentions have led her to justify her manipulations as being for a greater cause, which we interpret as being outlandish now, but we’ve yet to see how they play out further down the road. Maybe she feared for the future of the EF and she needed a way to save everyone by bringing them to another realm. Eddy and Adam are certainly setting the story up to have a longer running time than just 2 seasons. I think the “chilling reveal” could be that the BF disguised herself as the seer and then gave Rumplestiltskin a cryptic prophesy which ultimately led him to becoming the dark one, to lose his son, and to create the dark curse to bring everyone from the EF to SB.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Blue Fairy is the most obvious choice…and really the only one I can think of that could even pull it off. I mean where did Rumple get the idea for the curse in the first place…BF. If the spine chilling event is in one of Rumple’s flashbacks and this is in the span of the seer (who I would assume is mortal) then the only person that is old enough to really show up in that flashback would be the BF. I also don’t find it a coincidence that BF was involved in both August and Bae’s trips to our world…and since we are going to get to see what was in the box I’m thinking it may have a connection with her.
And I agree with Phee on this…people that are seeing the rough cut are making assumptions based on their own perceptions. While the BF may have been behind the whole thing in the end it does not mean that she did it with evil intent…the goal of the whole final battle is to restore the happy endings…it’s possible that all of this had to take place to get to that point.
Well…I’ve looked at every character that has appeared on the show, trying to tell if any of them could be ‘bad’, but all I can think of is Blue. Every other person is either dead, already evil, or just seem incapable of doing evil acts (I mean imagine Gepetto or Archie ripping out a heart or something – it just doesn’t seem possible). And also I’ve just remembered something; Blue had told Rumple that fairies never lie, and yet she has told many lies throughout the show.
And it was stated in an interview (I can’t remember where) that Blue is the oldest character there, even older than Rumple, so what would she have done before she met the other good guys… Who was she allies with..The thing is though, she seems so sweet and innocent, that I just can’t imagine her as evil or more evil than Cora or Regina. And if it is indeed her, then what could her motive be, or is she working for someone else.
And another thing that I can’t but help notice is that we have seen most of the good guys’ backgrounds, such as Archie, Gepetto (Archie killed his parents), Dwarves, Red etc. But we haven’t seen Blues’ background or anything, and we have seen her a lot and interacting a lot with other characters. I just think it’s weird that we were shown everyone elses’ story and yet we haven’t seen hers, despite Blue being the oldest character there and therefore probably has a big story to tell. I may be going overboard with this, but the more I think about it the more suspicous it seems.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
@baelish wrote:
Ever since the blue fairy made this look while Baelfire looked down after being given the bean
I’ve been suspicious of her true motives. I think it would be interesting for Rumple to realize that he himself was a pawn too. Good theories!
The BF does have a devious look on her face when she gives Baelfire “the last bean” in the EF. I have wondered in the back of my mind ever since The Return, exactly what her intentions are. She and August seem to have a pretty tight bond, so maybe he’s been her lackey on this side of SB ever since. Yet, I’m also inclined to believe Eddy and Adam would never outright lie to us about her being a protagonist. She may have a very utilitarian view of things (e.g. keeping Nova and Grumpy apart for the “great good” of the EF), but I don’t think that makes her evil. Perhaps, as Phee suggested, however, her good intentions have led her to justify her manipulations as being for a greater cause, which we interpret as being outlandish now, but we’ve yet to see how they play out further down the road. Maybe she feared for the future of the EF and she needed a way to save everyone by bringing them to another realm. Eddy and Adam are certainly setting the story up to have a longer running time than just 2 seasons. I think the “chilling reveal” could be that the BF disguised herself as the seer and then gave Rumplestiltskin a cryptic prophesy which ultimately led him to becoming the dark one, to lose his son, and to create the dark curse to bring everyone from the EF to SB.
I like the sound of that. That could be possible, and it certainly would be shocking to fans. And I never thought of Blue having good intentions, but now that you mention it, it does seem very likely.
I’ve never wanted to see an episode more!
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