Wardrobe/Blue Fairy/Rumple Issue

@PJSparkles wrote:

4. The Blue Fairy is up to something. (not a theory I readily get behind but I see more of a case building for hidden motives)

I’ve been untrusting of Blue for ages, so this is the theory I subscribe to, (also, as per the thread title, I do take issue with Blue’s wardrobe, but that’s a whole other topic :P).

The spoilery stuff regarding this is really just speculation. We were tossed some very vague hints, and our imaginations sorta ran riot trying to figure it out, but there’s not even any hard evidence to suggest that we’re on the right track. So it doesn’t really give any definite spoilers away to say that some people are now wondering if maybe Bae was actually the threat that Blue was trying to rid FTL of when she gave him the bean, because maybe there was some prophecy about him becoming a powerful evil force in the future, (in other words, Bae is our Anakin, the boy with the prophecy about him, and it all ends up a hot mess). Like I said though, no specific info we’ve been given proves this, the info doesn’t even specifically mention Blue or Bae, it’s just people wildly speculating.

Anyway, I mention that because I think it could play into why she didn’t simply tell Rumple to go jump in a tree, if he hadn’t been the real big bad she’d been concerned with getting rid of after all. Granted, he ended up posing a massive threat to all of FTL, but perhaps at the time, she thought she could manage him, and by the time she conceded that she couldn’t manage him, there was no way they could cooperate with each other.

On a far simpler line of thought, if he hadn’t trusted the bean she gave Bae, then why should she think he’d trust a tree portal even if she hooked him up with one?

There’s also the question of why Rumple didn’t just make a tree portal himself, because surely, over the years, the knowledge of enchanted trees didn’t escape him? I think this suggests that in order to turn an enchanted tree into a portal, there’s some sort of specific fairy magic needed that he simply couldn’t do himself.

@PJSparkles wrote:

1. The trees weren’t around yet (300 years is a long time even for trees)
2. Geppetto was needed to make a magical creation. (though that means at least 2 trees were used. what happened to the others? because 2 seems like a small number even for magic trees)
3.Wardrobe could only be a protection spell portal (this is kinda negated by the fact that MM and Emma use the ashes to get back)
4. The Blue Fairy is up to something. (not a theory I readily get behind but I see more of a case building for hidden motives)

Thoughts?

Unfortunately I think the wardrobe was a plot device, and now there’s some plot holes surrounding it and the beans too.

Like for number 1, if they can make the beans grow quicker, presumably, since those take 100 years to grow, then I would think that with magic that the trees could be made to grow faster.

Don’t even get me started on why neither Rumple nor the Blue Fairy knew about the magical beanstalk or how Rumple somehow didn’t know about the trees with special properties that would take people to a different land. I guess number 3 could have been true at one time which is why Rumple couldn’t use the trees, but you’re absolutely correct in now that fact seems to be negated since Cora was just going to recharge the ashes to come to our world. Don’t even get me started on how why couldn’t the Blue Fairy just recharged the wardrobe with water from the lake like Cora did either.

I’d rather believe that these aren’t actually plot holes but that number 4 is true and that the Blue Fairy is actually up to something. Probably not, but with the spoiler of her turning August back into a boy, I really hope she's up to something because I want there to be a great reason they're doing that instead of just killing August off.

The spoilery stuff regarding this is really just speculation. We were tossed some very vague hints, and our imaginations sorta ran riot trying to figure it out, but there’s not even any hard evidence to suggest that we’re on the right track. So it doesn’t really give any definite spoilers away to say that some people are now wondering if maybe Bae was actually the threat that Blue was trying to rid FTL of when she gave him the bean, because maybe there was some prophecy about him becoming a powerful evil force in the future, (in other words, Bae is our Anakin, the boy with the prophecy about him, and it all ends up a hot mess). Like I said though, no specific info we’ve been given proves this, the info doesn’t even specifically mention Blue or Bae, it’s just people wildly speculating.

It’s possible that she misinterpreted something to believe it was going to be about Bae, so she sent him away. Then, we find out that she’s either right or possibly wrong, and it was about someone else like Rumple or Henry.

I figured that the beanstalk must have been enchanted somehow to make it invisible, or at least hidden unless you know where to look for it. Arlo says to Anton, “You told the humans you were coming here, didn’t you? You showed them the beanstalk.” So it must be hidden by some magical means, because otherwise, it’s gonna kinda stick out like a sore thumb on the horizon for hundreds of miles around and everyone would already know it was there. It’s likely that the location of it became known after the events in Tiny, but no one had been up (or down) since then. In Tallahassee there was that enchantment on it to repel intruders, which Hook had the counterspell for, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that at one time it had been enchanted to shield it from the view of those who didn’t already know it was there. Kinda like SB, I guess.

Of course, that doesn’t necessarily answer the question of why Rumple and Blue didn’t know about it, considering they seem to be all knowing. I’m guessing at one point, the Fairies probably traded closely with Giants, so you’d think Blue would have known where the beanstalk was, and could be the one who enchanted it for them, (we need Tiny to see Blue in SB to see if he recognises her). That could explain why Rumple knew nothing of it, if it was protected by some particular fairy magic he couldn’t break. Regarding Blue, that would have to lead back to the theory of her being shady, because if she knew where the Giants were, she knew where more beans were too, but she chose not to tell.