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Somebodys getting lazy (rant)

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Two › 2×15 "The Queen Is Dead" › Somebodys getting lazy (rant)

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  • March 4, 2013 at 3:54 pm #136207
    soulsurf7
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    Anyone else get really peeved when Charming fell to the floor spurting blood from his mouth and then get back up lookin pretty as a peach? No? How bout when Regina confronts her mother about the day with snow on the horse…wait didnt that already happen? Did Regina suffer a memory charm and forget she already did that? With so many people working on a primetime show like this you’d think SOMEONE would catch all these mistakes. Not to mention the flat dialogue that has plagued the show this season. (How many times can Belle say “who are you?”) I LOVE this show. But why are we settling for for mediocre when we should have pure gold!

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    March 4, 2013 at 3:57 pm #176912
    Keb
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    It’s a heckuva lot better than most of the stuff out there right now.

    And I believe that young Regina only asked her mother whether she knew the king was in the area–she suspected but she didn’t call her mother on it at the time.

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    March 4, 2013 at 4:08 pm #176920
    ser_dragon
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    Excuse me? Mediocre you said? Keb is right: this show is a lot better than most of the poo (poo isn’t a swear is it?) that we get those times.

    March 4, 2013 at 4:15 pm #176922
    Phee
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    @Keb wrote:

    And I believe that young Regina only asked her mother whether she knew the king was in the area–she suspected but she didn’t call her mother on it at the time.

    Correct! Back then, Regina had suspected that Cora had played some small role in what happened that day. Only now is she putting all the pieces together and realising that Cora manipulated the whole situation.

    March 4, 2013 at 6:26 pm #176986
    soulsurf7
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    Don’t get me wrong I love the show but I think the writing is not as well thought out as last season. And with its success I would hope to see it get even better. In ep. Stable boy I don’t think Regina had a doubt that Cora had planned the whole thing. She says that it was no accident and Cora plays dumb. As Regina leaves, she mutters to herself that she should have let Snow die.

    March 4, 2013 at 6:27 pm #176988
    soulsurf7
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    I don’t like any other TV shows so I agree with you there.

    March 4, 2013 at 6:32 pm #176994
    l jones
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    Don’t get me wrong I love the show but I think the writing is not as well thought out as last season.

    Season One was not perfect. It had its own slew of mistakes. The biggest centered around Henry’s trip to Boston to find Emma.

    March 4, 2013 at 8:27 pm #177052
    antbee
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    @soulsurf7 wrote:

    Don’t get me wrong I love the show but I think the writing is not as well thought out as last season. And with its success I would hope to see it get even better. In ep. Stable boy I don’t think Regina had a doubt that Cora had planned the whole thing. She says that it was no accident and Cora plays dumb. As Regina leaves, she mutters to herself that she should have let Snow die.

    Great points. While season 1 also had its share of problems, I think that season is worse only because there’s not really a season long arc like last season had. While both seasons seem similar in that the last third of the season, episodes seem to be of really good to great quality, I think this season there was lot more floundering since things really didn’t get started, imo, until Emma and Snow finally came back to Storybrooke. Last year had a lot of filler episodes in the middle admittedly that many people, at least online fans, hated like “True North” and “Fruit of a Poisonous Tree”, but this year they seem to be going at a really weird pace. Sometimes it feels like the first season where they’ll drag things out slowly like keeping Emma and Snow in present day Fairy Tale land for most of the first half, but then they’ll really accelerate things that should actually be given more time to make them have more impact like Archie’s “death”.

    I also notice that there’s bigger plot holes this season that they either won’t address or have the writers fanwank outside of the show which I hate because not everyone reads their interviews outside of the show. Plus, it’s just incredibly lazy. Like this past episode, while I enjoyed it, I wondered how everyone was suddenly in on the know about Rumple’s dagger.

    It makes sense for Cora and Regina to know about it, but why would the Charmings suddenly know about it and what it does. Likewise, if Cora can knock the gun out of Charming’s hand by magic, then I need to know why she couldn’t have done so with the dagger. I know sometimes these are just little nitpicks, but I agree that while I find the show entertaining most of the time, it could be a lot better if they just tightened things up and had someone on staff that picked up on continuity mistakes and what not.

    It’s a heckuva lot better than most of the stuff out there right now.

    While I don’t watch much television, I agree to an extent. It’s better than most reality based programs, but compared to other hour long dramas, it could do better. There’s plenty of great dramas out there right now (Mad Men, Downton Abbey, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, Justified, etc.), and compared to those dramas and not just television programming as a whole, I wouldn’t say it’s better. It can be great when all the cylinders are firing, but unfortunately it doesn’t always do that. Doesn’t mean I don’t love the show, but some things about it, like the writing, do bother me at times.

    March 4, 2013 at 10:47 pm #177103
    Myril
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    @soulsurf7 wrote:

    Don’t get me wrong I love the show but I think the writing is not as well thought out as last season. And with its success I would hope to see it get even better. In ep. Stable boy I don’t think Regina had a doubt that Cora had planned the whole thing. She says that it was no accident and Cora plays dumb. As Regina leaves, she mutters to herself that she should have let Snow die.

    And I think they have more time to think things out this season, that is why they sometimes get a little lost in their own stuff, too much thinking so to speak. 😉 Not quite sure either, why they brought up the moment Regina and Snow met at great length here. Maybe it was there to tie it all in for people, who aren’t following the show so intensely as fans are, after all it has been a while, that Stable Boy aired. Not everyone has seen and discussed all so far aired episodes umpteen times.

    ¯\_(?????? ?)_/¯

    March 4, 2013 at 11:08 pm #177121
    spinninggold
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    I think the problem is… and it’s tempting because the show is so complex…. that we overanalyze things to death. And the writers do their best by hiding hints and clues all over the place and writing what we want to see, but we are making their job extremely hard, because if they get it wrong, for instance if Robert Carlyle accidentally leaves his wedding ring on, we come down on them hard, even though most people won’t have noticed.

    So maybe it’s us that need to calm down. Enjoy the journey, rather than worry about every step.
    Writers are just humans too.

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