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Regina vs Belle

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Two › 2×19 "Lacey" › Regina vs Belle

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  • April 22, 2013 at 12:23 pm #136619
    Keb
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    So Regina has now, always claiming she’s “helping,” persuaded Belle to try to break Rumple’s curse (getting her kicked out of his castle), captured her and locked her up for at least a year (possibly 3-4) in FTL, kept her without any memories or personality or even books and hamburgers and iced tea dangit in the secret asylum for almost 29 years, during a year of which time was actually moving, knocked her out in the hospital to rifle through her bag so that she could help her mother try to kill Belle’s true love and possibly only chance of being herself again, and given her false memories and a false life that, like the rest of the cursed people of FTL, are intended to ruin her happy ending, and in this case specifically make Gold surrender his humanity and love entirely.

    Belle seemed willing to overlook the years of captivity in the name of moving on, but I want to see Belle deal with this–not just Rumple dealing with it for her–but Belle deal with this when she comes back. (And she’s going to come back. I have hope and faith.) Belle doesn’t take nonsense from the Dark One himself. She calls Hook on his evilness. She’s gonna have to confront Regina at some point, and while she won’t be out for vengeance, she’s got no reason at ALL to be nice to the queen. And I want to see that.

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    Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

    April 22, 2013 at 12:33 pm #187737
    RumplesGirl
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    I agree! When Belle comes back (because gosh darn it, she is!) I think she’ll have a strong streak of Lacey still in her (they are both after all). And I’d love to see her confront Regina with what she did.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 22, 2013 at 3:18 pm #187763
    vilya
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    I love how Rumple always comes to her defense, but I am ready to watch Belle be her own hero too. I know that it is inside her.

    April 22, 2013 at 7:01 pm #187812
    Slurpeez
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    Belle has an amazing amount of goodness in her heart, much like Snow White had a pure heart. Even after 30 years being locked away, Belle still didn’t want Rumple to retaliate against Regina, which I thought was profoundly good, but perhaps a tad unbelievably so. It reminded me of when Snow White simply banished Regina from the EF rather than having her executed for her reign of terror. Eventually, when Cora and Regina threatened to kill Emma and Prince Charming, Snow White saw it as the last straw and took matters into her own hands to protect her family and herself. Goodness doesn’t have to mean playing meek or letting evil preside. Good people must take a stand against evil and fight for justice to prevail. There is such a thing as righteous justice. In the end, there can really only be two outcomes for Regina and Rumple: either true reform or justice will overcome their darkness, because this is a story about hope and happy endings.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    April 22, 2013 at 7:06 pm #187814
    Keb
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    Well, Belle’s concern wasn’t for Regina there–it was for Rumple. “Don’t give in to your hate.” Just like Charming’s concern wasn’t for Cora, but for Snow when Snow wanted to kill Cora.

    But the one time that Belle as herself was confronted with Regina post-captivity, she was with Rumple and felt a need to make her exit before Rumple persuaded her to stay with him. I think there, too, she might have been concerned for how Rumple would react if she said what she probably wanted to say to Regina, but it came off as more avoidance than anything else. She’s not one to look away (she didn’t with Hook’s beating), so I’m not sure what to make of that.

    Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

    April 22, 2013 at 7:30 pm #187821
    RumplesGirl
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    Goodness doesn’t have to mean playing meek or letting evil preside. Good people must take a stand against evil and fight for justice to prevail. There is such a thing as righteous justice. In the end, there can really only be two outcomes for Regina and Rumple: either true reform or justice will overcome their darkness, because this is a story about hope and happy endings.

    Interesting. And I think I agree (I say think because if I sit here and think for too long I might be tempted to pose questions like: when is righteous justice justified? and who decides to exact it? and measure should be taken? and when does righteous justice become revenge?) I also think the “almost too good” line about Belle in Broken is spot on and I feel like when Belle and Lacey finally integrate (ugh, is that a proper word for what happens to these characters….is there something better?) those tendencies toward pure goodness will be diminished because “they are now both” and perhaps Belle won’t be as forgiving toward Regina as she was in the past.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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