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April 29, 2013 at 1:03 am #136669jacobpotteroncerParticipant
What do they want? What is their plan? Any theories?
[adrotate group="5"]April 29, 2013 at 1:05 am #189400RumplesGirlKeymasterGreg wants his father, but I think Tamara wants something more. I think she wants to leave SB and go someplace else. Is she looking for someone? I she trying to get to a specific location?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 29, 2013 at 6:24 pm #189744kfchimeraParticipantIf you are willing to see spoilers, there are a lot of theories in that part of the forum.
Up in this section, all I can say is I agree that Tamara and Greg may have different agendas from each other.“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
April 30, 2013 at 6:46 am #189982jasminegirl84ParticipantWe all know that characters’ Storybrooke names seem to have significant ties to their fairytale selves (ie, Mr. Gold – Rumple makes gold, Mary Margaret Blanchard – Blanc = white, etc.)
So…..I have been pondering the significance of Greg’s name for the longest time, ever since his name was mentioned. For those of you who can dust the mental cobwebs from biology class, Gregor Mendel was a monk who did experiments on peapods and discovered genetic inheritance. I always wondered how genetics would tie into Owen’s story.
After Sunday’s eppy, my brain went into overdrive, especially when Greg mentions that science is much better than magic. Could Greg be doing some type of science experiment on the fairytale characters that he and Tamara are hoping to hunt down? Could he possibly be testing them to see how magic is inherited or acquired, if it is? Do you need to have a genetic predisposition in order to learn magic? I don’t think tagteam duo is going to kill them off just yet. What I also thought was interesting is that Leroy expressed his concern of outsiders coming into Storybrooke after the curse was broken…specifically he is afraid of what experiments would be run on beings like Red, or a dwarf if the outside world knew about this place…a possible foreshadowing? 😯
Hmm….thoughts?
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May 2, 2013 at 4:37 am #190562thelonebamfParticipantI think I’ve solved it! (Okay, not really but bare with me.)
We only have the finale left and with so many loose threads I think it’s time to assume that the simplest solution is the correct one. There’s limited time to deliver backstory on Greg, Tamara, Hook, etc.
I think we might be able to surmise that Greg isn’t alone in having his life negatively impacted by magic. His experiences during childhood would likely have set him on a path to figure out what happened, why it happened, and how he could stop it from happening again. (In this, he is not unlike Emma. She was driven by her abandonment to start looking for her parents, later gaining skills that helped her in her career as a bondswoman.) He could have met Tamara and others like them, a group organized with the purpose of making the world safe from the dangers of magic and those who wield it. Even in the case of the Dragon, who seemed intent on helping people (in exchange for money, a very honest transaction considering) it could be seen that the power is just too great for anyone to have.
So Greg and Tamara are part of a group. Scientists, spies, what have you- all using futuristic technology to accomplish their goals. (Perhaps a little nod to Tron, there.)
But what is this group? Well, having it confirmed that Tamara’s name should be pronounced “Tomorrow” I started thinking. When I hear “Tomorrow” the first thing that comes to mind is the sort of B-Movie dialogue “Welcome to the worrrrld of tomorrrrowwwww!” Where might you hear such a thing?
Let’s keep it in the family, shall we?
I think they’re a part of the “Eradication of Potential Catastrophic Occult Threats”. XD
Edit: Um. I actually looked it up and EPCOT is an acronym for “Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow”. Hrm.
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
May 3, 2013 at 7:26 am #190795GaultheriaParticipantI’m betting that Greg and Tamara work for Igor, who is using science to investigate the abduction of his boss and friend. This show portrays Igor so differenty from the well-known caricature that I think he is meant to stand out from the background.
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May 3, 2013 at 1:13 pm #190817kfchimeraParticipantI’ve thrown out speculation that the “upper levels” of GOAT’s organization are magical in origin or at least not World without Magic, so Gaultheria’s idea definitely fits with that.
Also bringing in Igor would mean more Whale so I’d be thrilled if they did it that way.
I didn’t think he stood out that much though–I can’t even remember much about Igor.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
May 3, 2013 at 1:15 pm #190818RumplesGirlKeymasterThis is mine!!
Here is my current favorite theory (that is slightly crackpot/slightly serious)
Give the title of the two episodes and what we know from promos (warning: don’t read the black if you really don’t want to be spoiled): that Bae went to London after he fell through the bean hole where he met Wendy Darling and somehow they were all taken by Pan's shadow to Neverland here is what I think:
–The Home Office was founded by the Darling family after their children and street urchin Bae went missing from their London home some 100+ years ago. While George Darling may have known what Neverland was, his experience with it was not positive and Adam and Eddy have said that their Neverland is NOT going to be the super whimsical and fun one we think of.
–The sole purpose of The Home Office was to locate and retrieve the Darling children. At this, they failed and eventually George and Mary Darling died and passed off their enterprise to other people. Over time these new CEO’s, as it were, were less interested in finding the Darling children as they were about destroying all magic. They began recruitting those people who had some sort of negative interaction with magic at some point in their lives. The mission became less “find the Darling children” and more “eradicate magic.”
–Enter Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz. Her experience in Oz was horrifying and she was recruited some 30 years ago to The Home Office
–Shortly after she was brought in, she discovered a small boy name Owen who was telling tall tales about a magical town and a mayor who had some sort of ability. She brought him into the fold. Years later, she tracked down a bitter girl named Tamara who was angered over the death of her mother Marian due to some Dark Curse that had affected her ever since she and her husband Robin lived in FTL. Tamara was brought into the fold where she met Owen.
–Dorothy, now the head of the Home Office gave them their mission: track down Owen’s father Kurt and destroy the town and people of SB.
–The rest we know. Whether or not GOAT follow through on this mission remains to be seen."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 3, 2013 at 3:11 pm #190840MyrilParticipant@thelonebamf wrote:
But what is this group? Well, having it confirmed that Tamara’s name should be pronounced “Tomorrow” I started thinking. When I hear “Tomorrow” the first thing that comes to mind is the sort of B-Movie dialogue “Welcome to the worrrrld of tomorrrrowwwww!” Where might you hear such a thing?
Let’s keep it in the family, shall we?
I think they’re a part of the “Eradication of Potential Catastrophic Occult Threats”. XD
Edit: Um. I actually looked it up and EPCOT is an acronym for “Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow”. Hrm.
Maybe we should mention, that EPCOT was a project of Walt Disney himself, a community for people to live in, not just theme park but way more, at its core a city to develop new technology and living ways for the future. The existing Epcot theme park is what is left of it, sort of. There were far bigger plans for Disney World. Think some might not know 😉
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May 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm #190855thelonebamfParticipantMyril- yes! Thanks. I honestly started writing that post as a total crack theory that I thought was funny. Then I went and read the wiki on EPCOT and started thinking, well geez- a group like this (if it existed in the show) probably would be really down on magic. Too unpredictable to work in a utopian world of science and technology. And now… this is my pet theory. (For the next two days anyway.)
"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."
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