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May 17, 2013 at 8:18 pm #136925winlea78Participant
It seems that Henry may not be the only one to have 2 parents or parental figures fighting over him. It’s possible that Bae may find himself in the same situation in the future with Rumple /Hook. Even though Hook and Bae didn’t have the ideal parting, Hook obviously still cares deeply for Bae. We also don’t know exactly how long Bae was actually with him. Sometime OUAT makes it look like people parted ways soon after meeting but then we learn later that they actually spent a good deal of time together. Such was the case with Rumple and belle with the skin deep and lacy episodes. Anyway the mere thought of Bae made Hook come back to help save Henry. So when Bae is discoverd to be alive, it’s going to be VERY interesting to see how things play out for their relationship. Remember, Rumple may not have Belle to distract him from his son. And the very thought of his arch rival being anything other than his son’s enemy may make rumple a ” little” disturbed. “How can my Bae even tolerate this man much less love him”? I can see rumple asking. “First, He took My wife and now he’s taken My son”, I can just see Rumple paying to “victim” card on Bae like he did in manhattan. “Oh, poor me. I’m so full of reget….you just have to see things from my POV Bae”.
[adrotate group="5"]May 17, 2013 at 8:39 pm #195163RumplesGirlKeymasterBae’s not happy with either of them but I think Rumple and Hook are both going to try and win Bae back, as it were. Rumple and Hook both want forgiveness. It’ll be interesting. Rumple’s got Belle to help smooth things over, explain how Rumple’s is really a good man. Hook doesn’t have that yet, but who did more damage to young Bae: Rumple or Hook?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 17, 2013 at 8:50 pm #195169winlea78ParticipantRumple did more damage IMO, he was the father and Bae WANTED to BE with him. At least with Hook, Bae was the one who wanted OUT of the relationship
May 17, 2013 at 8:56 pm #195172RumplesGirlKeymasterI agree. Plus from a story standpoint, it will be better watching if Bae and Hook have a better relationship than Bae and Rumple. Far more chances for drama.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 17, 2013 at 9:04 pm #195174winlea78ParticipantOmg! I was thinking that same thing! What could possibly bring rumple more pain than that? Plus, with Hook, what you see is what you get. He’s never really changed who he is. Bae may appreciate that more, as opposed to his father where you can never really know where you stand with him. Bae is at a point where he’s sick of the lies and deception. And as forgiving as he is, he will get to a point where he just won’t stand any more from Rumple
May 17, 2013 at 10:07 pm #195187KebParticipantIt just depends so much on what Hook and Rumple do from here on out. Right now, they’re on somewhat equal standing–they both helped put Storybrooke and Henry in danger in various ways, they both betrayed Bae (at least from Bae’s POV) a long time in the past, and they’re both only narrowly-reformed villains who seem to slide back and forth over the good/evil line like Lacey walking home from the Rabbit Hole at 6 am. Nobody’s ever entirely sure whose side they’re on at any given moment, and Regina and the Charmings know it.
Regina, though she’s usually the hothead of the three “villains” on board the ship, may actually be the most reliable of them as long as Henry’s in danger, because the one motivation everyone can count on with her is protecting Henry. Emma knows it at this point–she’s seen what Regina’s willing to go through for Henry’s sake–and so she’ll trust Regina that far. It’s likely she’ll trust her even further than that because initially Hook was like “I’ll take the bean and escape alone” and Gold was like “Eh, we’re all gonna die, what’s it matter now?” when Storybrooke was threatened, while Regina actually planned to sacrifice her life to let them escape–if only for Henry’s sake. She’s done more to redeem herself but (from my perspective anyway) had a lot more to redeem than the other two (who have killed and harmed others, but far less gratuitously that we’ve seen).
I’m rambling again. But I totally agree there’s a strong parallel between the Hook-Rumple connection through Bae and the Emma-Regina connection with Henry. I hope we see that played up. Their little truce makes sense–they need each other to save Henry, Hook’s been rethinking the whole revenge thing since he realized he hadn’t succeeded, and Gold knows full well that Belle wouldn’t want him to kill Hook if only for his own sake. She has the interesting effect of both sparking his violent outbursts and quelling them.
I do wonder how the ladies and David will play into the relationship between Hook and Rumple at this point. David, especially, since he and Emma are pretty much the only people that Rumple actually has permitted to see his more vulnerable side besides Belle and Bae. He trusts and admires the two of them more than he does most people, even if he mocks David Nolan a bit–David’s the one person he trusts to understand about Belle, and we know that part of him kinda wishes he could be Charming, but David’s also the guy who locked him up in FTL (whether he wanted it or not). And David’s not especially fond of Hook–see their rather violent altercations every time they meet–so who knows what kind of relationship they’ll forge. Yet they did manage to work together when they were playing cops.
Emma’s relationship between the two could be even more complicated. She’s declared LOVE for Rumple’s son, and bore his grandson, and she’s acknowledged him as family. Yet there’s clearly some attraction between her and Hook–either romantic or kindred spirits or both. I think she’d fling herself between the two of them in an instant to stop one killing the other (we’ve already seen her do this a couple times, actually, in 212 and 215). And we know that Hook appreciates much about Emma, as does Rumple.
Regina and Snow seem kind of on the outside of this dynamic, but they might wind up being drawn in at some point. OMG, is it autumn yet?
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May 17, 2013 at 10:43 pm #195192obisgirlParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
I agree. Plus from a story standpoint, it will be better watching if Bae and Hook have a better relationship than Bae and Rumple. Far more chances for drama.
I like that.
May 17, 2013 at 11:07 pm #195194RumplesGirlKeymasterObisgirl alluded to this in another thread but I think Charming is going to get caught in the middle of Hook and Rumple. I think he’s going to be the one keeping the peace for the most part. He doesn’t particularly love either Rumple or Hook, but he does know that Rumple “fears” Charming so much as Rumple fears anyone. (In We Are Both, Rumple says that it’s Charming he worries about, not David Nolan, like Keb pointed out).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 18, 2013 at 2:14 pm #195255obisgirlParticipantHmm, interesting. Charming the mediator.
May 18, 2013 at 2:54 pm #195267PheeParticipantI’ve been hoping for this deliciously awkward clash of relationships with Rumple/Bae/Hook for ages, so bring it on!
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