Which can lead us back to Red being Eliza. You even said the Liza comparison does not seem to fit and Granny does not seem to be intellectually sarcastic. Her sarcasm seems to be more direct. Parents usually call their children by their real or full name when that are annoyed or mad. Right? We all have full and nicknames, we all have parents and we have all gotten our parents mad at one point or another. At the time of the Liza incident was Granny really happy or thrilled with RubyRed?
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