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@Surayya wrote:
Phee If you pause ep one when the camera pans around to show the tree being made into a wardrobe, the wardrobe IS the tree- its just been hollowed out & the doors are made from part of the hollowed out stuff, it was never chopped up & turned into an actual wardrobe in fact it appears it never even was removed from the cart they wheeled it into the council room with- so I just dont get where your interpretation of vessel is coming from re Pino/wardrobe, the BF speech has no context what so ever that could be taken as human vessel that I can work out.
Yes I know it’s just the hollowed out tree, that was pretty obvious. LOL Blue Fairy said a vessel made from that tree. “Vessel” can mean various things, including someone’s body. She didn’t specify what kind of vessels made from this tree, in what form, would offer protection. In this case, it just made sense to hollow it out and slap some doors on it and that’s the particular type of vessel that was made. That doesn’t exclude other vessels having been made from the tree at some previous point in time.
@Surayya wrote:
Also SW says ” the wardrobe, it only takes 1″ & “you have to send her through” Sounds like they already new the curse was going to transport them all & that the wardrobe was going to transport their child as well.
Which doesn’t necessarily exclude the fact that that transportation ability wasn’t a separate spell. If Blue Fairy WAS the one responsible for the spell that actually transported, she’s not gonna go around telling everyone that she can do that, coz then everyone will be bugging her to save them, and it’s not everyone’s destiny to be saved yet.
@Surayya wrote:
If Pino was made from that same tree & he was protected from the curse, fine I’d buy that- BUT he’d NOT have to be transported anywhere then as the curse (or EQ) took ALL FTL folk & plonked them in our non magical world, to live cursed lives – stripping them of their happy endings etc.
So to me if he’s protected from the effects of the curse, he’d still have been transported like everything else (remember the glass coffin is in our world as well, so it stands to reason Everything in FTL came-
If he was immune to the curse due to being made from the tree which was immune to the curse, then I don’t think the curse would have picked him up and plonked him down in our world. We haven’t seen the tree stump wardrobe in our world either. If we had, then obviously this theory of mine wouldn’t hold water because that would mean that the enchanted tree and anything made from it was still subjected to the curse. But unless and until we’re shown that, what I’m saying is still a valid possibility.
@Surayya wrote:
(Emma had to get AWAY from the EQ as she is the only one who can stop her, Not Pino, so EQ will hardly be looking for a non cursed Pino if he was indeed protected from the curse & so would not have needed transporting out of SB).
Well, the other part of my speculation is that Pinocchio was also sent as a protector for Emma, so someone would definitely be there to find her by the roadside, and someone who knows FTL to be true would be an adult along with Emma and could convince her it’s all real, to help her save them all. Which is exactly what August has been doing since he came to Storybrooke. So in keeping with that particular theory, YES he needed to be transported to the same place as Emma, he couldn’t have just been sent to Storybrooke.
@Surayya wrote:
I do have to wonder tho why it is Gep would have gone looking for away to save his boy if he was already protected from the curse?
Well, that goes back to my idea about the kid potentially being left stranded in a destroyed FTL. Of course Geppetto wouldn’t want that for his son.
@Surayya wrote:
At the end of the day if you REALLLLLLLLY want August (or any character for that matter) to be someone, you’ll find away to make any situation ‘prove’ whatever theory you want it to 😉
Not gonna lie, pretty much every time someone comes up with reasons to debunk the Pinocchio theory, when I think it through, it usually just ends up just making me believe it even more. 😆 None of the other theories about his identity make much sense to me, but Pinocchio does. If he IS someone else though, and the writers give me a plausible explanation for it, I’ll get over being wrong and will still love the character of August.