@the wiz wrote:
@Possum Snoodle
You wrote:I’m hunting Alice dialogue. I seem to recall Alice worried about being stuck in age, size, location, and such. Hmm.
There are several other features of Wonderland that were stuck: the Mad Tea Party, the Red Queen’s obsessions and the White Rabbit’s chronic lateness – for instance. It’s possible that Lewis Carroll was commenting on what happens when our use of logic precludes self reflection (going into a looking glass). If we cannot consider the “3 fingers pointing back at ourselves” when we point fingers at others, our own story grounds to a halt. Getting unstuck calls for seeing what we’re doing to ourselves when we do things to others and how we create our own limitations by being unimaginative.
@charming
You wrote:Booth to Lewis Carroll is a harder case to make, his real name was Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (01/27/1832 to 01/14/1898) he was mathmatician, logician and Anglican deacon. If one can find a connection that fits I can agree because 2 of the 3 does fit and the third I do not see too clearly. Thoughts???
I’m thinking the connection of Booth to Lewis Carroll is too logical and literal, just like Emma was being with Jefferson discussing what is “the real world”. Instead of what is, let’s play with what-if questions:
1. What if August Booth is merely a self-referential character for the writers of OUAT, like the White Knight was for Lewis Carroll.
2. What if Jefferson’s dialogue is an homage to Lewis Carroll’s approach to the intersection of logic and imagination?
3. What if that room with the big window and sea of hats is symbolic of how Charles Dodgson abandoned the Anglican Church’s dictates about Hell and Eternal Damnation?
4. What if Jefferson’s getting stuck in Wonderland in FTL and that abandoned church sanctuary somewhere — are the result of being unimaginative?
5. What if Jefferson created his living hell by “hating Wonderland” and “hating the curse” that kept him apart from his daughter in SB?
6. What if he will discover he has magic himself when we can abandon either/or logic and embrace both/and paradoxes?
7. What if his beheading in Wonderland shows him his logical split between his mind & body, head & heart, or thinking & feeling?
8. What if the writers of OUAT realize that Lewis Carroll could have written the show because he was both logical and imaginative, not exclusively one or the other? 😀
Good points taken. We think of what is as I have always sugessted in other matter but in this case the what if does seem to fall in to place. Never thought of that…….touche. I’ll go along with this theory of the white knight until i get hard confirmation that he is not. Sure, I’m game.