Re: Last 30 seconds

@AntBee wrote:

@Surayya wrote:

I’m thinking since no-one will see it coming & with so many star wars themes coming up- it’s to do with Henry’s future- be it good or bad…. Maybe it goes along the lines of ‘if events take course A) Henry goes all Darth Vader on EF’s butt- if they go course B) He goes all Jedi type thing- this could easily hold true for it being about Emma as well.

After all who would suspect Henry (or Emma) could turn Dark- It happened to Anakin 😉
It could come down to either something Rumple does or doesn’t do, Oh- or maybe it comes down to Henry learning magic or not (much like Anakin learning to use the ‘Force’ = him becoming Darth Vader – lol I almost typed Dark One then lol 😳 ) – there is a star wars parallel if there ever was one for SB 😉

However, I think the prophecy is about how Henry will turn bad given all the spoilers talking about how chilling the last 30 seconds are and how some of the reviews have mentioned that something ominous happens concerning Henry. Emma is already cast in the role of the Savior, so I don’t think they would have her double as both. Plus, as the Savior, it would be more dramatic if there’s some kind of prophecy where she’s the one that must defeat this big bad who turns out to be her own son.

So I think in this case Henry = Anakin in that there’s potential for him to go to the Dark Side in the future, but instead of it being Henry that hears the prophecy like how Anakin sees Padme’s death which he inadvertently caused by trying to prevent it, it will be Rumple that sees/hears this glimpse of the future.

The seer’s prophesy could be two-fold: first about Rumple and then about Henry; both could have potential to do magic, and so be like a jedi knight who could use the force, for good or for ill. There were two very revealing spoiler tweets, which I think present a theme about being condemned to one’s fate vs. forging one’s own destiny.

The seer says:

“The future is a puzzle. With many pieces to be sorted. In time you will learn to seperate what can be from what will be.”

Later, Henry and Rumple have a very similar conversation:

Henry: “But you wouldn’t have to worry about stuff. You’d just know.”
Mr. Gold: “But that’s the great trap. The future is like a puzzle. With missing pieces. Difficult to read. And never what you think.”

There was another spoiler which was:

Fear the Seer
Despite our ‘rough-cut’ review copy of Sunday’s episode, the Seer truly is a sight for sore eyes – even with unfinished visual effects. Once you know your future, is there any way to avoid it, and does trying to escape fate simply seal the deal? We guess the lesson here is be careful what you think you know. Also, prepare for some predictions that will leave you scratching your head for episodes to come. http://www.screenspy.com/editorials/5-things-to-know-about-once-upon-a-times-manhattan/

At I first, I think pre-dark Rumple will confuse the “what can be” with the “what will be” and so seal his own grim fate as the Dark One trying to escape being a coward. Mr. Gold speaks as one who has actually fallen into the trap of thinking he could read the future with clarity. Yet, had he chosen not to listen to the seer’s prophesy involving a “can-be’ he might’ve avoided becoming the Dark One entirely. The seer’s prophesy could also involve Henry having the potential to be a very powerful sorcerer in the future, which sounds ominous when we hear it prophesied, bit doesn’t necessarily mean that Henry will become a Darth Vader type of figure (which is essentially what Rumple is in this show). We know that pre-Dark Rumple will hear a prophesy, which will lead him to his destiny of becoming the Dark One. I believe it’s because Rumple makes the mistake of confusing the “will-be’s” from the “can-be’s.” What we could see with Henry, however, could be a very interesting foil for Rumple’s character, and could create a kind of juxtaposition. Instead of becoming a dark figure, Henry could become a power for good. He could learn to avoid the same mistake, despite it being foretold by some creepy old fortune teller.

ETA: Here is a spoiler that I just saw. It’s similar to the ones we’ve already seen, but it adds a key piece of information.

Francesca: Share some OUAT scoop!
Do not miss the final minute of Sunday’s episode. It’s a game changer that involves a vow Rumple makes in a flashback to Fairy Tale Land. http://www.eonline.com/news/388547/spoiler-chat-scoop-on-glee-the-vampire-diaries-big-bang-theory-teen-wolf-and-more

So this “chilling reveal” comes in the form of a vow that Rumple made in the past based on a prophesy. I wonder if he vowed to harm whomever would challenge his power one day, not realizing it’d be his own grandson. That’d certainly be a shock! Back in the present, Mr. Gold realizes that he made this vow about a grandson he never even knew existed. Now the struggle will be to make sure that never happens to him or Henry.