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October 15, 2013 at 1:50 am #216010tabsicleParticipant
So with Tink being in the last episode, and Blue calling her Green got me to thinking about different colors for all the fairies. So I decided to watch all the episodes with the fairies ( I’m not as good at this as most other oncers, but I’ve tried), to find out more about each of them.
I’m gonna go on ahead and apologize if I’ve missed anything, and for it being so scatter brained.
Outfits:
Well firstly the Blue Fairy/Ruhl Gorem?/ Mother Superior obviously has on her blue outfit with different flowers on it and very high heels. She also has a very big necklace She wears her hair in ringlets.
Nova/Astrid/ Pink? has an outfit similar to Blues (including a big necklace), but she has flats and different flowers. She has her hair up in curls.
Cinderella’s Fairy God Mother/ Yellow/gold has on a long yellow/gold dress with a choker necklace. Also has curly hair.
And Tinker Bell/ Green has on a green dress that has, imo, been made out of material to resemble leaves. Tink also wears a big scarf (the other three wear necklaces), and has golden booties and green booties. Also has curly hair.
I mention their outfits because it makes me wonder if they fairies are just going for personal style, or style that suits their jobs/statuses.
Living:
Nova says to Dreamy that she spends very little time in our world. But she also says she watches it from afar. In the start of that episode Nova and Blue are sitting on clouds.
We saw Tink go to a bunch of flowers, and then caught by Blue.
So doe fairies live in the clouds, and work in the flowers, or some live in clouds some in flowers, or all live in flowers and just watch from clouds?
Wands:
Blue’s wand is blue with silver around it. Tink’s wand is green with silver around it. Cinderellas FGM was yellow/gold and some other color, and I could be mistaken but I don’t recall seeing Nova with a wand.
When Rumple took the wand ( I think Yellow’s wand) and took the magic from the diamonds, it turned purple.
I wonder if the wand changes color when it is taken by a new owner.
Fairy Power:
When Morraine tells Bae about Blue she says that Blue is “an ancient being that rules the night”. When Bae asked her if she was more powerful than his father the dark one Morraine said she was more powerful than anything (or something along those lines). Morraine called Blue the original power.
Blue took away Tink’s wings.
Blue said Nova’s wings would have been taken ,if she went off with Dreamy
Fairies sense magic. Mother Superior/Blue spoke of sensing magic.
Johanna told Snow that Blue would grant the wishes of those whose hearts were true.
Being Summoned:
Bae and Rumple called out for Rhul Gorem
Snow Wished upon the Blue Star
Blue came when she heard Jiminy’s wish.
Tink came as Regina was falling out of the window.
Cinderella’s FGM appeared when she was sweeping and couldn’t go to the ball.
Pixie Dust:
Diamonds are ground into pixie dust in the mines by the dwarfs. Blue says that “Fairy dust is the most precious substance”
Pixie dust is far more stronger than Fairy Dust.
If no one believes in it the Pixie dust will not work.
Blue: Good or Bad?
According to Morraine, Blue is more powerful than The Dark One, Rumple.
Blue took away Tink’s wings. She mentioned Nova’s being taken away.
When Dreamy told Nova they couldn’t be together she immediately suspected Blue. And demanded to know what she said.
Blue lied to Snow about the wardrobe.
Blue lied to Rumple about not being able to get Bae back, but he didn’t believe her lies.
Fairy Jobs:
Blue is Nova’s teacher, as well as Tink’s.
Nova is training to be a Fairy Godmother. And was in charge of taking the fairy dust.
Cinderella’s FGM is patron Godmother to King George’s family.
In the cartoon Tink fixes (or Tinkers) with things.
Well like I said before, sorry its all scatterbrained. Most of the information is already known any way, but maybe ya’ll can shed some more light on the darker areas.
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October 15, 2013 at 2:13 am #216013MysteryKat25ParticipantVERY interesting & thorough!
TINK VS NOVA:
Perhaps Tink is dressed differently than Nova and they live in different places according to their jobs like you suggested. We saw Nova up in the clouds which would be a good place to watch over everything from a distance and Tink’s home we saw was in a flower. While that doesn’t rule out Nova living in a flower, it doesn’t cement it as definite yet either.
Tink IS dressed very differently from the others so I like the idea that it’s because of job type. Her dress being more like leaves would make sense if she’s a different type of fairy / lives inside a flower.
BLUE FAIRY:
Where to begin? She was called “the original power” and more powerful than the Dark One but we haven’t seen anything that backs that up yet. We just know that fairies live a long time cause she’s still around and has been since before Rumple became the Dark One. If she’s the original power, goodness knows what happened to her as she (seems) helpless without her wand (or so she says).
There are so many different opinions on her. She’s supposed to be powerful and good but we haven’t gotten to see a lot of her story yet. We’ve seen her lie. We’ve seen her help some but not others. Even going off of her speech where she basically got Rumple thinking along the lines of the curse, she says there’s good and evil and she’s on the “right” side – yet never specifies which one that is (and everyone thinks of themselves as being on the right side, even villains, right?)
Magic has been waning for awhile now. Even before Bae went through the portal, the magic beans and magic trees seem to be going out of existence. Perhaps her power has been waning over the years as well?
She definitely seems to be the woman in charge of fairies though. She’s the direct superior (as far as we know) of both Nova and Tink even though they seem likely to have completely different jobs. Nova was training to be a Fairy Godmother but we don’t know about Tink. Do all fairies have the same job? Do they overlook different areas?
Blue’s area of expertise is supposed to be granting wishes for those with the truest hearts, but not necessarily everyone.
In fact, some have argued that it doesn’t make sense for her not to help Regina because it would have helped her get AWAY from Rumple which would hinder his plans for the curse he told Blue about working on AGES ago and it would have set Regina down a path of love and not hate. She would have been out from under Rumple’s thumb but Blue wouldn’t allow it.
Which goes back to the Sneaky Fairy is Sneaky theory held by many that she was helping to orchestrate everything. I feel like H&K said a long time ago that the BF was good and genuinely trying to help people so maybe we just haven’t seen enough yet or there’s something bigger going on that isn’t actually evil with her. Perhaps she’s been manipulated or burned along the way. After all, she did everything she could to help Bae with his father and look how THAT backfired on her. We do know for sure though that she did not have her memories during the curse. She did have some “final preparations” before the curse was enacted though and those remain to be seen.
LOVE:
It would appear that fairies do not fall in love. Nova was the exception to this rule.
NO NONSENSE:
Blue is a stickler for the rules! She threatened to take Nova’s wings away and she actually did so with Tink. It makes me wonder if she’s the only one with that can. It was interesting that Snow actually told Tink “I believe in you” and it did nothing so I presume if Tink goes back with them to SB and somehow proves herself to Blue she might be able to get her wings back.
Either way, Blue does NOT put up with a lot of nonsense. She’s very strict and seems to be in charge of all fairies.
COLORS OF MAGIC:
When Rumple does magic in general, his is a weird purpleish color. It’s most noticeable in the smoke used. I’m not sure if everyone doing magic has the same color (been awhile since I looked at it) but I feel like they each have their own unique shade of magic, so the wand turning purple in Rumple’s hand doesn’t surprise me at all. I’d have to go back and document the others though. I tried to a long time ago and have completely forgotten it all!
APPEARANCE:
Very interesting that they all have similar styles, even if it’s just the hair or the outfit. I suppose there’s a general fairy dress code and maybe they can style it slightly within that but tend to gravitate to the same thing.
Blue seems to appear when called for or when she hears a wish from someone she deems worthy of her help/time. Tink and Nova both seemed to be off doing whatever they wanted and happening upon something that interested them. Nova is a bit more scatterbrained and screwball-esque and needed help, whereas Tink is a bit more mischievous and probably just wanted to know why Regina was tossing herself out a window so helped her. Not sure if either can be called by anyone though. Perhaps by Blue at the very least.
NAMES:
It’s very interesting that Blue calls Tink “Green” – it’s almost like a rank or one of those non-names so you don’t get too attached so something. Instead of calling them Fairy 1, Fairy 2, they’re color-coded (which obviously upsets the rebellious Tink who has a name and wants to use it).
IN STORIES:
I’m not familiar with a ton of stories involving fairies but I always loved the three fairies in Sleeping Beauty. Interestingly enough, we’ve now seen blue, green, and pink fairies though I highly doubt that they’re the same ones!
Conclusion:
Hopefully we get some more info in the future, and I think we will of both Tink and Blue (and possibly Nova if it becomes relevant to a future Grumpy storyline or something). Tink is with the group right now so we should find out how she fits in with any PP or Hook backstory, and Blue…well, we have a lot of questions that need answering!
The only time we’ve seen fairies other than Blue, Nova, or Tink, was when they were all part of the rescue attempt in An Apple As Red As Blood where they were on Snow’s side. Also Blue is a member of Snowing’s council so she’s either very crafty and got herself into a good spot and has been pulling a VERY long con, or she actually is one of the good ones. Either way, the fairies listen to her (or are supposed to) and they helped Snow try to rescue her prince. So that’s something.
LOVE your analysis and can’t wait to see what other intel is gathered on the subject. Now that we’ve seen more than 2 fairies we can put more together and maybe something will click that gives us theories for other stuff!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
October 15, 2013 at 4:37 am #216019kfchimeraParticipantGreat thoughts, Tabsicle and MysteryKat. I am very eager to see more of the “Genus: Fairies” on this show, but even more generally, I am very curious about ALL the not-entirely-human mythological creatures such as Giants, Dwarfs, Trolls, Ogres, were-wolves, the Dragon, and of course, mermaids (especially a certain one). How do these creatures /people come into being? We saw the rather creepy egg factory for the fairy slave labor of choice, Dwarfs (a description ScrewballNinja put fort in her essay on the Blue Fairy, shady lady. http://screwballninja.tumblr.com/post/56912789726/the-blue-fairy-one-shady-lady-an-essay-in-6).
I’m inserting the picture she inserted here because it is worth a 1000 words on the creepy factor here.
I am hoping with fairies that they do go with the “laugh” theory in Peter Pan, and that it is a sign of particular special magical people who can create fairies. Yet if the fairy doesn’t live up to standards, it is in some ways like what happened to August, but instead of turning to wood, they just become merely human. So of course, I am hoping Belle is tied to TinkerBell in that way by having “laughed” her into being full-size at Belle’s birth.
Whatever origin they pick for fairies, it seemed as if TB was “in training” the way that Nova had been, therefore was younger than being centuries old perhaps. I forgot who, but someone once suggested fairies literally are tied to stars and are much like them in the sky. I’m not sure that’s where they are going with the fairies but it is interesting.
I agree that there does seem to be a rank order, and clearly Blue is the top dog among the fairies. I think you are right MysteryKat that it is not enough for just anyone to believe in the fairies, but not sure it HAS to be Blue. Maybe Henry’s belief will be enough, but certainly Snow’s was not. It maybe was enough to do some little thing though, we just do not know yet.
I am not sure that fairies can love in normal circumstances, but Nova/Astrid turning down Leroy/Grumpy was not really canon so we do not know for sure. I am very curious to learn more about that, as well as what makes fairy dust and what makes it into pixie dust, and yes, is this a resource that is diminishing in general as PP alludes to needing to restore magic to all the realms.
I feel that they completely left out “sidekick” characters such as the fairies from the Aurora story (but if so, Merryweather would be Blue, and she was my favorite sidekick.). I hope Blue is good but just misunderstood (and that does fit into Merryweather a bit, yet she seems more young and impulsive versus Flora and Fauna). The size changing happens in Pinocchio too, which is obviously their starting point on fairies.
They also have not addressed “Dark fairies” such as the one who gave Snow her special dust. Maleficent is supposed to be a dark fairy in the original Sleeping Beauty tale too. Do fairies who go bad and corrupt their hearts become witches? I had also hoped for Maleficent is Tink, but that is debunked completely now.
Finally last random rambling thought: I noticed the shape of the fairy wings were different too between Tink and Blue, almost like different insects.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
October 15, 2013 at 5:27 am #216021PriceofMagicParticipantGlad I found this thread.
First, the flowers the fairies lived in looked like they were in the clouds. As the camera panned I was looking at the different flower colours and I noticed something. Tinkerbell’s flower is the only green one.
I briefly rewatched the beginning of Price of Gold and Dreamy and I noticed something else. Blue, Nova and Cinderella’s FGM all have “Dragonfly” shaped wings whilst Tinkerbell has “Butterfly” shaped wings (Perhaps marking out Tinkerbell as different?). All the fairies wear something around their neck too.
The four fairies we have seen wear different colour dresses but all those colours can have associations with the different seasons:
Blue- blue- Winter
Nova- pink- Spring
Tinkerbell- green- Summer
Cinderella’s FGM- yellow- Autumn/FallAll magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixOctober 15, 2013 at 7:20 am #216033TheWatcherParticipantMaybe when a baby first laughs, if the baby is a boy, it produces a dwarf and if its a girl, it produces a fairy. In the movies, didn’t the laugh go through pixie dust before it became a fairy? Maybe the boy laugh goes into the mines where it matures into an egg and then later hatches a dwarf… I wonder if dwarfs are considered mammals 😛
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICOctober 15, 2013 at 9:19 am #216049RumplesGirlKeymasterWow! Genius stuff all around guys.
I think I’m most intrigued by names and power relationships.
I think “Blue” or Ruel Ghorem might be a sort of title. (gotta start thinking about evil witches/sorceress and their names)
Blue is at the top. Nova appears to be very low to the bottom. Tink is somewhere in between (she has a wand). I think it’s possible she may be a fairy godmother but a very new one, whereas the Yellow FGM had been at it for awhile. According to Dreamy, being a fairy is like having a job in which you can climb the corporate ladder. Possibly Tink just got promoted. (I know the whole wish thing is making some people’s head hurt but I think in 303 Regina didn’t need to be wished to be saved as she fell but Tink could step in because it was life or death).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 15, 2013 at 10:18 am #216062TheWatcherParticipantMaybe when a baby first laughs, if the baby is a boy, it produces a dwarf and if its a girl, it produces a fairy. In the movies, didn’t the laugh go through pixie dust before it became a fairy? Maybe the boy laugh goes into the mines where it matures into an egg and then later hatches a dwarf… I wonder if dwarfs are considered mammals
Also, genies can be male fairies. They both shrink down and grow big. But fairies originating from NL and djinn from Agrabah could be a point that sets that theory back.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICOctober 15, 2013 at 10:26 am #216065thebassgalParticipantDelete, wrong place. It’s about fairies, but not about their likes and differences.
October 16, 2013 at 12:19 am #216259tabsicleParticipantWow Ya’ll brought out a lot of good points. I especially like the connection to the seasons as well as boy fairies being either dwarfs or genies. Ya’ll catch so much.
Time to hide your crazy, and start acting like a lady.
October 16, 2013 at 12:59 am #216264kfchimeraParticipantI love the seasons idea. I did not notice the flowers were in the clouds! I like that boy laugh = dwarf. I hope they get more into fairy mythology.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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