Sneaky Fairy and Peter Pan

I agree with a lot stated here. For Pan to be more powerful than the Dark One, atleast to me, that means that he might precede the dark one curse. If he is her son, one of them may have created it. Blue told Bae that the dark one curse (I really wish we had a name for it since Dark Curse refers to something else) didn’t belong in the EF so that obviosuly means it came from somewhere else. I’m sure she knows very well she or Pan created it.

Tink called her out on her not being very Fairy-like and I think that is a hint. I think Blue has plans. Evil plans, maybe but probably good intentioned bad plans. I don’t trust those little sparkly wings v.v

thebassgal, I’m pretty much on board with pretty much all of that!

Only thing I’m not quite sold on is Blue being Pan’s mother, but that’s partially because my brain is so entrenched in the idea that Pan is Rumple’s older brother. Though thinking about a possible origin point for Blue and Pan’s relationship, in Barrie’s original story, Peter Pan runs off to live with the fairies, and that’s how he ultimately gets sent to NL, so perhaps Blue was the fairy who sent him there when he wanted to shun the human world?

Interesting facts about the names Rhuel and Gorm. We know they’re Gaelic for Blue Star, but those descriptions of each word as an individual name fit Blue so well.

One other little bit of speculation I’ll throw into the mix here is that I’ve always wondered if the Seer might have been Blue in disguise. Originally got the idea when I thought there might have been a hint of Keegan’s voice layered in there with the young Seer’s voice, but thought I might have been imagining it. But then, the Seer has bright blue eyes. And whenever Keegan’s asked what other character she’d love to play, she always says she loves the little bit parts, and always specifically mentions the Seer. And now we’ve seen Blue chastise Tink for getting big for no reason, which I’m wondering might be a tiny hint that Blue herself has got big a couple of times for what she deemed to be a very good reason. And Blue is the one who basically told Rumple that a Curse would do the trick, and then the Seer reinforced that for him, telling him that yes, the future most definitely involved the casting of a terrible Curse.

If Blue wanted Regina to cast the curse, which eventually led to Tink being removed, then why did she want Rumple taken out? Blue would have needed Rumple too, so that he could push Regina to casting the curse.

The only possibility is that Blue knew Rumple wouldn’t go with Bae.

That’s what I think, yes, that she knew Rumple wouldn’t be able to go down the beanhole. And if they (Blue/Pan) needed Bae, because they ultimately needed Henry, they had to get Bae in the right time and place, which meant separating him from his father, and having him end up in NL for a couple of centuries.

Which leads me to this – is a bad, even terrible, thing that is done for the right reasons, still a bad thing?

I feel like that is the ultimate philosophical question for ONCE. Case it point: Rumple. He did a lot of terrible (truly terrible) things but in the name of parental love. Snow White told a secret she was not supposed to tell, but did it in service of saving Regina from losing her mother, an experience she knew all too well.

A running theme of the show has always been: desperate souls do desperate things. And sometimes desperate souls do horrible unspeakable things. So, if Blue isn’t an evil puppet master then I think there is something horribly traumatic in her past that makes her so rigid and cold and do the things she does. I have my own head canon which is that she was once in love with a mortal man who was dying. So she enchanted a dagger and stabbed him in the heart but all magic comes with a price and he became the first dark one. This trauma leds her to demand that no fairy can love.