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The Fountain of Youth

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Three › 3×05 “Good Form” › The Fountain of Youth

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  • October 27, 2013 at 11:16 pm #219298
    Slurpeez
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    Peter Pan cautioned Killian Jones that the waters of Neverland have the power to heal and keep people young, but that if he left the island, he’d soon pay the price. That price was the life of Liam Jones, for as soon as he left the island, the healing powers left him and he died from dreamshade poison. The same could now happen to Charming if he were to try and leave NL.

    Peter Pan said that the waters are what keep everything on the island and all who live there so young. What would happen to Peter Pan if he ever left? Would he simply just start to age? We’ve seen Peter Pan so far only once outside of NL and that was in the EF as the Pied Piper in 3×4.

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    October 27, 2013 at 11:22 pm #219307
    RumplesGirl
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    So, is this fountain of youth what keeps Peter Pan and all of the lost boys so young? What would happen to Peter Pan if he ever left? Would he simply just start to age? We’ve seen Peter Pan so far only once outside of NL and that was in the EF as the Pied Piper in 3×4.

    I had a problem with the Fountain of Youth being in NL. NL is just supposed to be a place where you don’t age biologically because it’s the land of imagination and where kids grow to not grow up. So suddenly we’ve to the Fountain there clogging the mythology. What do the Lost Boys and PP have to go and drink from the water everyday? Is it just this one spring? (again I had some issues with this) And how does this spring affect time? Wendy said that time worked differently! And obviously Peter and the lot aren’t aging but why did they have to bring in this spring when the not aging is just part of the NL myth?!

     

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    October 27, 2013 at 11:25 pm #219313
    Slurpeez
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    And how does this spring affect time? Wendy said that time worked differently!

    According to the CTV promo, PP tells Rumple you can’t see the future in NL since there is no time there. But I agree the Fountain of Youth myth does complicate things.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    October 27, 2013 at 11:34 pm #219325
    RumplesGirl
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    Complicate is one word for it.

    This whole time we’ve been under the impression that magic was leaving NL and thus time would begin to move again and that PP and the boys would age which is what PP is trying to prevent (side note Jared Gilmore said something to this exact effect in an interview around the time of 301/302) but now if all you need are magic waters then having the heart of the truest believer seems redundant. Is the heart going to revitalize the spring?

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 27, 2013 at 11:43 pm #219330
    Josephine
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    I have a spring and I know from experience that springs rise and fall in water level. If it’s especially dry and hot then the water level falls and some springs end up drying out. If it’s a rainy season then springs will overflow. Maybe because the magic is dying the water is disappearing, too, although it didn’t look that way.

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    October 27, 2013 at 11:47 pm #219335
    RumplesGirl
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    I have a spring and I know from experience that springs rise and fall in water level. If it’s especially dry and hot then the water level falls and some springs end up drying out. If it’s a rainy season then springs will overflow. Maybe because the magic is dying the water is disappearing, too, although it didn’t look that way.

    But that’s nature, not magic. Is Henry’s heart going to control the weather so it’s always a nice balmy 70 degrees and no humidity with a nice rain shower around 3pm-6pm every day to ensure that the spring stay at level?

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 27, 2013 at 11:49 pm #219336
    Josephine
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    Sure, why not! This is Once after all! 🙂

    Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

    October 28, 2013 at 1:25 am #219403
    Gaultheria
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    But that’s nature, not magic. Is Henry’s heart going to control the weather so it’s always a nice balmy 70 degrees and no humidity with a nice rain shower around 3pm-6pm every day to ensure that the spring stay at level?

    That’s the plot of “Spock’s Brain”; it’s not nature or magic, it’s science!

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    October 28, 2013 at 1:50 am #219416
    astrawoid
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    Maybe Pan wasn’t being entirely truthful about the spring.  He said that the spring was keeping everything young but maybe you have to believe that too.  If Pan is losing his belief or is tired of having to believe in everything to make it true, maybe he wants someone else with the truest belief system to take over?

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    October 28, 2013 at 4:26 am #219428
    Phee
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    Could it be that the amount of belief/magic that exists affects how potent the water is, which in turn affects the condition that all of NL is in? So it wouldn’t just be the water keeping NL young all on its own, it can’t do its thing properly with the belief/magic fading.

    When Liam drank it, he had one mouthful. When Charming drank it, he gulped down the entire canteen. The fact that they showed that contrast may be a hint that the water now just isn’t as strong as it once was. The magic of the spring needs rejuvenating just as much as the magic in everything else.

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