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April 16, 2014 at 6:19 pm #261919GrimmsisterParticipant
“Magic Allways comes with a Price”
So what is going to be Emma’s Price if she starts to use magic?
or is there no Price for her because she uses her magic for good plus she is the saviour?
What Positive ramifications is there for Emma using magic and will they justify the price she must ultimately pay.
[adrotate group="5"]April 16, 2014 at 6:34 pm #261925RumplesGirlKeymasterShort answer is yes. All magic comes with a price, even if it is done in the name of good.
The question for me is not will Emma but what will Emma have to pay.
And this is where her archetype comes into play: The Savior. I’ve always believed that at some point Emma will either literally die or metaphorically die. But don’t worry! She’ll come back. Saviors always do (Buffy, Harry Potter…) And outside of popular culture, it’s a big part of the myth of the hero or monomyth as laid out (probably most famously) by Joseph Campbell.
You can read about the monomyth HERE
If this does happen, when Emma returns either from literal or metaphorical death, she’ll be stronger than ever.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 16, 2014 at 7:00 pm #261935CindersParticipantIt’s really the temptations that intrigue me. With magic comes power, and with power comes corruption, greed, and/or temptation. Imagine having magic, and not being tempted to use it occasionally for selfish or petty reasons, even if the main focus is for the greater good.
Emma is the savior, but she’s also human. She will be tempted to use magic at times, instead of relying on her own human strengths and capabilities.
Regina was corrupted by magic, as was Cora, Rumple, and even Zelena. Emma will be changed forever because of her use of magic.
The OUAT stories remind us often, that ALL magic comes with a price, sometimes a heavy, even deadly price, which is partially what Neal’s death was meant to remind us.
As Neal’s life’s journey ended, possibly as Rumple’s ultimate price of magic, Emma begins her journey into that very same world of magic. She begins her journey as a hero, but she too will pay a heavy price.April 16, 2014 at 7:09 pm #261939SlurpeezParticipantIn 3×11, Emma said the price of her magic as the savior was never getting a day off. Just when she thinks she’s going to sit back and enjoy herself, something bad happens. Emma being the savior cost her Neal, who let her go so she could break the first curse. Just when Emma found Neal again, he died, twice. In my opinion, Emma losing the man she loves was the price of her magic.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 16, 2014 at 9:34 pm #261973Jenna_BParticipantThere’s a few ways they can go with Emma and her magical abilities. As mentioned, there’s the blanket “all magic comes with a price,” meaning ultimately, Emma will have to pay a price. There’s the ‘Emma’s the Savior’ and that in and of itself is the price of her magic.
But they could also begin to attempt a differentiation between light magic and dark magic. To date, we’ve mostly seen magic fit into boxes – Dark Magic: Regina’s revenge, Cora being, well, Cora, Zelena (all, notably, stemming from the same source – the Dark One himself). Then there’s Pan, whose magic was dark because at his core, Pan/Malcolm had zero redeeming qualities. They use magic primarily for selfish reasons. And when it comes to Rumple, he may ‘help’ others, but the price is always steep. Because the root of the ‘help’ is coming from darkness. Rumple loses his power with Belle’s True Love because he doesn’t know how to use his magic for good – therefore, the price he pays is always so great.
Then you’ve got the fairies – Light Magic. Of course, their magic is limited, and you could say it does come with it’s own price in that they seem to only be able to function single-mindedly, and are more at the mercy of others than their own individual beings (save for Tinkerbell, the ‘rebel’).
But as Regina pointed out, Emma’s raw ability is strong. Emma is by no means perfect or an angel, or even particularly joyful 90% of the time (!) but in her heart, there is good. Her intentions are to protect her family, and the innocent, and to defeat evil. And those intentions are strong. Her magic comes from the Light, because in her core, she is Light. She is the product of True Love, and apparently this is why she is so special (we’re going to forget a moment about kids like, oh, Cinderella’s baby or Philora’s baby-to-be or Snowing #2 because that’s a whoooole other discussion! 🙂 ). But she isn’t a fairy – she is human. She is not one-dimensional, she has goodness and she has flaws.
So I think there may not BE a price for Emma to pay. I think the more Emma learns about her magic, and the more she embraces who she really is, the more she will see the Savior as a positive thing, and therefore, it is no longer a “price” she is paying. And because the magic comes from Light and Good, and therefore, is not used for Dark or even selfish reasons, there is no price. She gives and protects using the magic she has, unlike those who practice Dark Magic.
April 16, 2014 at 9:55 pm #261976HappyEndingsSpectatorMagic only comes with a price if you are a good person if you are bad nothing happens you can throw all the fire balls etc and never pay a price. This saying Magic always comes with a a Price isn’t true. Example: RH using the Wand to save his baby instead of his wife or baby dieing nothing happens.
April 16, 2014 at 10:34 pm #261982CindersParticipantThank you Jenna B. that was a lovely response. Thank you for a really uplifting perspective. This show has become fairly dark, and sometimes I forget that there is still goodness and beauty to be found.
April 16, 2014 at 10:34 pm #261983RumplesGirlKeymasterSo I think there may not BE a price for Emma to pay. I think the more Emma learns about her magic, and the more she embraces who she really is, the more she will see the Savior as a positive thing, and therefore, it is no longer a “price” she is paying. And because the magic comes from Light and Good, and therefore, is not used for Dark or even selfish reasons, there is no price. She gives and protects using the magic she has, unlike those who practice Dark Magic.
It could be that the price isn’t for magic Emma does, but rather the price of what Emma is.
Like I said above: myths involving Saviors have a certain predictability about them–even if the events are mixed up and around or even some skipped. Emma starts off like every hero: the call to action = Henry showing up at her doorstep telling her she’s the Savior and has to bring back happy endings.
So if there is a price to pay, it’s not because of something Emma *does* but rather the sheer fact that she is what she is.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 16, 2014 at 10:35 pm #261985RumplesGirlKeymasterThank you Jenna B. that was a lovely response. Thank you for a really uplifting perspective. This show has become fairly dark, and sometimes I forget that there is still goodness and beauty to be found.
Emma literally or metaphorically dying and then coming back as her true self–THE SAVIOR in all her glory–would be pretty uplifting, I think. You come back with the full weight of your power and ability and knowledge in yourself.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 17, 2014 at 5:09 am #262025GrimmsisterParticipantI agree RG the archtypical hero/Savior always pays with there life in some form and is then resurrected or ascends into heaven. But if she comes back just as she was – then what was the prize?
I believe, or what I wish and hope for the show, is that in the end in order for Emma to save her Family, she must give up her ‘life’ as a fairytale princess with magical powers and become just a regular human being. She will bring all her friends and Family with her out of Storybrook which will then seize to exist. This will be the resurrection into the real World.
So her prize is her magical self.
I think this would be a great story for them to tell. Because it would emphasize the importance and strenght that is in humanity. No supernatural powers and magic can save you, just your own strenght and ability to choose for your self. I think that is what the show had been trying to establish so far.
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Emma is the savior, but she’s also human. She will be tempted to use magic at times, instead of relying on her own human strengths and capabilities.
Regina was corrupted by magic, as was Cora, Rumple, and even Zelena. Emma will be changed forever because of her use of magic.Yes I think that is very on point and Emma will, true to the myth of the savior, be tempted by evil and almost succumb to it before coming back to her true self.
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