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Reply To: The Captain Swan thread!

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › General discussion and theories › The Captain Swan thread! › Reply To: The Captain Swan thread!

May 29, 2014 at 10:58 pm #271746
surayya
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Far out- twitter is like the Once version of world war!

Just saw & must admit I totally agree with her on every point she makes (it’s Long, but well worth reading 🙂 )

You don’t like Hook? Fine, no one said you have to. I get he’s not for everyone, just like there are characters I like less than I like he and Emma and the Charmings.

But let’s get one thing straight — Emma has never come out and said “Hook, I don’t have feelings for you, please leave me alone” or “Hook, I don’t want you around, please leave.” — in fact she has welcomed his company, sought out his reassurance, missed his presence when he wasn’t around and told him THANK YOU on several occasions for the things he does for her. Sure, she’s told him she isn’t in the mood for bonding…and what did he do? Left her alone. He flirted with her after saving Charming (b/c if you knew anything about his character at all you’d know that he does that to deflect any sort of attention and/or praise b/c he isn’t used to it and doesn’t know how to react to it) and SHE kissed him…and kissed the HELL out of him. There was no forcing. Just two willing participants who have been drawn to and attracted to each other sexually and emotionally for quite some time. You think it made him happy to have to tell her about the depth of his feelings in the Echo Caves? Look at his freaking face, he’s mortified that he has to put her in that situation and he knows he’s going to be rejected but he does it anyway to save the man he thinks Emma wants to be with. But after he saw Emma with Neal and realized it wasn’t the happiest of reunions, he felt pretty confident about winning her heart. And yes, he did tell her he would win her heart, but he said he would do so the honest way (because he was reacting to her calling him a pirate) and that it will be because SHE chooses to be with him, otherwise he doesn’t want it. He’s never forced any kisses on her. He kissed her in NY b/c he thinks they’re true love and he thought their kiss would save her. It’s the EXACT same thing Charming did for Snow. I mean…identical. And he even apologized to her for it. He was trying to save her. This is a fairy tale story. That’s not assault, people. And if you think it is? Make sure you include Charming in that b/c again, same damn thing.

Is Hook perfect? Absolutely not. He’s flawed. Incredibly flawed. The matters of his heart don’t always come out right when he talks about them and sometimes he says them at completely inappropriate times but that’s because the guy wears his heart on his sleeve and the loss of love & fighting for love is his main motivation in life. He knows he and Emma have a connection, he knows she has feelings for him (and she DOES, it’s been confirmed on the show and by the writers dozens of times, just b/c you choose not to see it doesn’t mean it isn’t there). There is nothing wrong with him being persistent and showing her how much he loves her and how she can have the truly happy life she’s always wanted. And he does make her happy. She just needed proof, she needed a reason to let down her walls for him. And he gave that to her.

But let’s get a few facts right…

In S1 when Charming thought Snow didn’t love him (and before he found out about the memory loss and what his father did to her) — he said to Ruby “I don’t care if she doesn’t love me, I will find her and convince her that we belong together” — where is the big rape culture accusations for him?
People love to call Hook a “stalker” for watching Emma outside the diner for 10 seconds while she was at a dinner he was INVITED to — b/c the witch had literally just threatened her life and the life of those she loves. But, what about Snow in S1 who had an affair with a married man and after they broke up, showed up at the diner every morning to see said man when he’s getting coffee for he and his wife, and she also admitted to Emma that she knew when he leaves for and gets off of work, when he picks up his dry cleaning and what nights they order chinese take out. To which Emma straight up called her a stalker. WHERE ARE THE RAPE CULTURE ARGUMENTS AGAINST SNOW?
Or how about Rumple who killed his ex wife b/c she exercised her agency to leave a relationship that made her miserable? Was Milah the greatest person? Nope, she left her son. Did she deserve to be murdered in cold blood for that? I don’t care if Rumple killed her for leaving Bae, he still killed her for choosing to leave.
And then we get to Regina who took Graham’s heart and told him that from this point on he will do whatever she tells him to or she will kill him and then instructs her guards to bring him to her bed chamber immediately after saying so. He had to be dragged there. And then in Storybrooke when he exercised HIS agency to break away from the toxic relationship with her, she murdered him in cold blood. But I guess that’s okay b/c it’s Regina, am I right?
Look, I love ALL of these characters and I understand they’re flawed and make mistakes. I adore Rumple & Regina. But the difference here is, I would never single any of them out and project real life tragedies on to them b/c I’m not getting my way on a TV Show. — I’m from California. I have friends who lost people in that shooting that just happened. And to see you guys USE that as means to further your OUAT/Hook/CS hate agenda is just disgusting.

I’m sure this will be reblogged to kingdom come with nasty remarks and I honestly don’t care b/c something needs to change. You have a problem with Hook? Fine. But hold the other characters to those same standards, otherwise your arguments are entirely invalid b/c it’s obvious your bias is clouding your judgement. This show is STILL filled with strong women. The love they’ve found only makes them stronger. Emma rescued herself in the finale, Killian was just there as background support. Regina beat the witch but Robin was just there to keep her heart safe. Just b/c they’re in love with men, doesn’t make their characters any less beautiful or strong or empowered. Even Josh said he loves working on a show where the men take a backseat to these strong amazing women.

Isn’t there enough hate in the world already without you guys twisting something that promotes love and forgiveness and hope and understanding into something nasty because it’s not playing out exactly like you want it to? Don’t you realize that by hounding the writers to change things b/c they aren’t going your way that you’re promoting the same type of culture you claim to hate? Imagine the difference you could make if you spent that energy on things that will actually make a difference in the world. And that’s all I have to say. It’s a shame we can’t all enjoy this lovely story together, it really is.

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& Love the pics POM- Thanks 🙂

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