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Hook and Ursula

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Four › 4×13 “Unforgiven” › Hook and Ursula

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  • March 8, 2015 at 10:00 pm #297902
    RumplesGirl
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    Hook and Ursula know each other and apparently something major went down between them that Hook doesn’t want to speak of? What happened between them?

    My theory: Hook, when he was a pirate, killed Ursula’s father and somehow caused her to lose her kingdom

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    March 8, 2015 at 10:54 pm #297917
    Sarah
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    That is exactly what I was thinking he said he did much worse than break her heart.

    March 9, 2015 at 9:06 am #297953
    Phee
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    I hope it’s something bigger than that. I hope it’s something like, she actually WAS a goddess, and something Hook did stripped her of her goddess powers and immortality, and turned her into a mere octohuman.

    March 9, 2015 at 9:31 am #297957
    RumplesGirl
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    I hope it’s something bigger than that. I hope it’s something like, she actually WAS a goddess, and something Hook did stripped her of her goddess powers and immortality, and turned her into a mere octohuman.

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    Oh I like that a lot

    And it would go well with what A and E said about how it’s soul crushing

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 9, 2015 at 4:16 pm #298010
    PriceofMagic
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    Phee wrote:

    I hope it’s something bigger than that. I hope it’s something like, she actually WAS a goddess, and something Hook did stripped her of her goddess powers and immortality, and turned her into a mere octohuman.

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    Oh I like that a lot

    And it would go well with what A and E said about how it’s soul crushing

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    I agree. However, timeline wise, Ursula was still a goddess in Ariel which takes place either before or after Snow Falls and we know Hook was in the EF at that time. It’s possible this Ursula could’ve been named after that Ursula however with Poseidon as Ursula’s father, that would suggest that Ursula really was a goddess. So brought down to normal by Hook is the most likely, but timeline wise it doesn’t make sense.

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    March 9, 2015 at 4:19 pm #298012
    RumplesGirl
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    but timeline wise it doesn’t make sense.

    When was the last time it did make sense?

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 9, 2015 at 4:26 pm #298015
    TheWatcher
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    Ursula seemed pretty nonchalant toward seeing Hook…so is it really THAT bad? I mean, if it were something completely and utterly terrible, she’d have A) Been surprised to see him B) Most Likely attacked him and C) Wouldn’t have just strolled away even if she did attack. Ursula is kind of snarky. She’d have words to say I assume. Especially if Hook “crushed her soul”. Why just walk away?

     

    Also I remember the casting call for what we think is Young Ursula says that the actress must have a beautiful voice. Maybe that has something to do with it?

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    March 9, 2015 at 4:27 pm #298016
    MatthewPaul
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    I agree. However, timeline wise, Ursula was still a goddess in Ariel which takes place either before or after Snow Falls and we know Hook was in the EF at that time. It’s possible this Ursula could’ve been named after that Ursula however with Poseidon as Ursula’s father, that would suggest that Ursula really was a goddess. So brought down to normal by Hook is the most likely, but timeline wise it doesn’t make sense.

    The only time we saw the real Ursula in the episode was when she had possessed a statue of herself. Since Ursula is still a witch, that’s something she could possibly still do, whether she’s a goddess or not.

    March 9, 2015 at 4:44 pm #298020
    Keb
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    I don’t think the timeline EVER made sense 🙁 But I had high hopes for it Once Upon a Time.

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    March 9, 2015 at 4:49 pm #298022
    RumplesGirl
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    I don’t think the timeline EVER made sense :( But I had high hopes for it Once Upon a Time.

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    Obvious pun is obvious

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