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A Land Without Time

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Four › 4×18 “Sympathy for the De Vil” › A Land Without Time

  • This topic has 21 replies, 14 voices, and was last updated 10 years, 1 month ago by RumplesGirl.
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  • April 19, 2015 at 9:04 pm #302063
    RumplesGirl
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    1920s Fictional London (and apparently many of the story realms) do not exist in time; they are just lands of stories.

    What did you make of this development? what does it mean for the other lands we’ve seen? Do any lands change or move in time? Does this means that nothing is “real” in the lands without time?

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    April 19, 2015 at 9:08 pm #302067
    Keb
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    What it makes ME wonder is how Wonderland’s fictional London relates to time…

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    April 19, 2015 at 9:16 pm #302080
    RumplesGirl
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    This twist stresses me out. How is a land stuck in America-1920’s even before America had its 1920s?? Like, it’s 1910 in America…but 1920 in Fictional 1920 London? How does that even work? And which lands are not bound by these wonky time laws? Is there no time anywhere? Does no one have any concept of time? How does that work?

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    April 19, 2015 at 9:18 pm #302083
    MatthewPaul
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    This twist stresses me out. How is a land stuck in America-1920’s even before America had its 1920s?? Like, it’s 1910 in America…but 1920 in Fictional 1920 London? How does that even work? And which lands are not bound by these wonky time laws? Is there no time anywhere? Does no one have any concept of time? How does that work?

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    Wait, where are you getting 1910 in America? I thought perhaps this was concurrent with 1960-1970 real world America, based on Cruella’s age.

    April 19, 2015 at 9:20 pm #302085
    RumplesGirl
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    RumplesGirl wrote:

    This twist stresses me out. How is a land stuck in America-1920’s even before America had its 1920s?? Like, it’s 1910 in America…but 1920 in Fictional 1920 London? How does that even work? And which lands are not bound by these wonky time laws? Is there no time anywhere? Does no one have any concept of time? How does that work?

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    Wait, where are you getting 1910 in America? I thought perhaps this was concurrent with 1960-1970 real world America, based on Cruella’s age.

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    Yes but what about 90 years ago? Like did the world pop into existence during the 1920???? did it not exist prior to 1920s America?

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    April 19, 2015 at 9:22 pm #302086
    Corbin
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    RumplesGirl wrote:

    This twist stresses me out. How is a land stuck in America-1920’s even before America had its 1920s?? Like, it’s 1910 in America…but 1920 in Fictional 1920 London? How does that even work? And which lands are not bound by these wonky time laws? Is there no time anywhere? Does no one have any concept of time? How does that work?

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    Wait, where are you getting 1910 in America? I thought perhaps this was concurrent with 1960-1970 real world America, based on Cruella’s age.

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    I think she means, “What was 1920 Fictional London like when it was 1910 in America?”

    My guess is that, since time is a man-made concept and time has always worked differently between worlds, this one could’ve just always started as being the 1920s. Maybe it (and Victiorian England) are like Storybrooke – just lost in time.

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    April 19, 2015 at 9:27 pm #302089
    MatthewPaul
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    I think she means, “What was 1920 Fictional London like when it was 1910 in America?”

    My guess is that, since time is a man-made concept and time has always worked differently between worlds, this one could’ve just always started as being the 1920s. Maybe it (and Victiorian England) are like Storybrooke – just lost in time.

    To answer that you have to go deeper by pondering when worlds are created in the first place. Maybe this world simply didn’t exist decades ago. The Author described it as a story, so maybe it was only created once it was “written into existence”, literally.

    April 19, 2015 at 10:17 pm #302107
    Jiminy’s Journal
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    While we’re at it, Isaac made a Cinderella reference, but all of that would have happened closer to the Curse.

    April 19, 2015 at 11:12 pm #302122
    Crystal Princess
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    OUAT makes no sense timeline wise. most of the fairytales we know and love happened in like, the period between the 60s and 80s.

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    April 20, 2015 at 12:28 am #302130
    onceaholic
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    1920s Fictional London (and apparently many of the story realms) do not exist in time; they are just lands of stories. What did you make of this development? what does it mean for the other lands we’ve seen? Do any lands change or move in time? Does this means that nothing is “real” in the lands without time?

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    I was glad to find this out.

    I was happy to get half an explanation regarding why the EQ and RH and WWW (for example) would be around at the same ”time.”

    Now all we need to know is

    1) How does our world know about them? (Is the author orally spreading and publishing his stories in our world?)

    2) Why, if they are fictional, do they actually exist? (Never Ending Story? Repeated storytelling=belief=gives rise to life and conciousness? Or did thing go the way of Sophie’s World?).

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