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April 26, 2016 at 3:44 pm #322231
MatthewPaul
ModeratorOnce Upon a Time’s Belle said she tainted her soul because she saved Rumple. Does she regret it? Does protecting oneself or family really taint their souls? —Rebecca
I hand-delivered, as I do, your salient Q to the series co-creators, and Eddy Kitsis answered, “Belle is very distraught because she did something that she never ever really wanted to do,” accidentally damning ex-fiance Gaston to the River of Lost Souls. “In that moment, when it was life or death, she chose Rumple, which obviously says something — but whether she wants to admit it or not is another situation. She doesn’t like being put in that situation and she’s upset that she couldn’t figure a way out, because she reacted in a moment and now has to deal with that for the rest of her life.” As for whether having “tainted” her own soul a smidgen might help foster an eventual reconciliation with her Dark One husband, since Belle now stands on less-high ground, Kitsis says, “We are going to have to wait and see what happens to her.”Source: http://tvline.com/2016/04/26/castle-season-9-spoilers-rick-los-angeles-move/
[adrotate group="5"]April 26, 2016 at 9:07 pm #322250ry4christ
ParticipantAs for whether having “tainted” her own soul a smidgen might help foster an eventual reconciliation with her Dark One husband, since Belle now stands on less-high ground, Kitsis says
I don’t like where this seems to be heading. So we’re bringing Belle down to Rumple’s level, rather than bringing him up? #hope I guess. Yikes. Not that they’ve left themselves really any other believable way for them to be together. Belle has her issues, but she’s generally in the right when it comes to not wanting Rumple to, I don’t know, kill people, or allow himself to be consumed with darkness.
April 26, 2016 at 10:44 pm #322255RumplesGirl
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@Keb?As for whether having “tainted” her own soul a smidgen might help foster an eventual reconciliation with her Dark One husband, since Belle now stands on less-high ground, Kitsis says, “We are going to have to wait and see what happens to her.”
lol kay
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 27, 2016 at 12:35 am #322261Keb
ParticipantReally isn’t me! I guess all us Belles are Rebeccas or something :p I did notice during one of my graduations that there was a much higher concentration of Rebeccas in my particular major than most of the others at that ceremony…
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
April 27, 2016 at 4:38 am #322265sciencevsmagic
ParticipantI don’t like where this seems to be heading. So we’re bringing Belle down to Rumple’s level, rather than bringing him up?
I agree. While their story does provoke some interesting questions about morality, I do not like what they’ve done with Belle. Previously compassionate, forgiving and idealistic, she’s now being portrayed as something of a goody-two-shoes who considers herself on morally higher ground to everyone else. Not once have I seen Belle in this way, and I think it’s unfair to cast her character in this light. Being idealistic does not mean she is not intelligent enough to understand shades of grey and the importance of context when evaluating moral choices. She seemed fine with Rumple killing Pan; I presumed that this was because she accepted that it was necessary for everyone’s safety. Also, as @ry4christ pointed out, she IS generally in the right when it comes to Rumple. On the occasions when she’s objected to his behaviour, it’s because he was lying, manipulating, killing and torturing for his own gain. Now, I don’t have the best memory when it comes to specific events in OUAT, so if anyone can think of contradictory examples, I’d be interested to hear them. Finally, Belle has always seemed like she acted in certain ways because it was compassionate or simply “the right thing to do”. Being worried about “darkening her soul” makes her seem selfish, like she only does things to maintain her own personal purity . Maybe they can pass this off as her being stressed or something, but I hope they don’t continue along this line because it’s degrading to her character.
April 27, 2016 at 5:25 am #322266sciencevsmagic
ParticipantOk, so typing my above post actually set off a new train of thought re Belle. I’ve long considered her lack of self-preservation instincts to be a flaw. She forgives VERY easily. This was alright as long as she was only endangering herself. But now, she is going to be responsible for another human being’s safety. Suddenly, the issue becomes far more serious. Maybe this is what the writers are trying to explore, but it’s not coming across.
Consider the following scenario. Belle and her baby are in the library. Hook enters and wants help with some research for his current problem. Should Belle tell him to “sling his hook” (pardon the pun) and stay the hell away from her baby? Considering that he tried to murder her and more recently, murder Emma’s entire family, I believe the answer is yes. Who cares what excuses Emma/the Charmings/anyone else is making for Hook? Belle’s a mother, she shouldn’t take ANY chances. I think this would be interesting and realistic character development for Belle. It’s not like she’s contradicting her moral beliefs, she’s just becoming more assertive and more cautious.
I would LOVE to see the above scene play out sometime. Hook might return with a shocked Emma, who questions Belle’s rudeness. Then Belle can give them a piece of her mind using the juiciest vocabulary her reading has given her. The “heroes” are stunned for a while, but eventually come to respect Assertive!Belle. I would also love to see this version of Belle call out EVERYONE for their bad behaviour. It’ll provide her with another (and more entertaining) narrative function and open a door for people to confront their mistakes instead of just getting away with anything, like they are now.
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