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Hammer of Hephaestus

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Six › 6×08 “I’ll Be Your Mirror” › Hammer of Hephaestus

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  • November 13, 2016 at 10:21 pm #330277
    timespacer
    Participant

    Like last week, I really liked this episode. One of my favorite things was ro see them bringing in more Greek mythology in a way that fit our characters perfectly. In Greek mythology, Hephaestus was the son of the goddess Hera, the (somewhat Evil) Queen of the gods. Hephaestus (aka Vulcan to the Romans) fought against his mother and she cast him out of Olympus. The hammer is associated with him because he became the god of metallurgy and blacksmiths. Is the fact that he eventually returned to Olympus and defeated his mother a hint of things to come between Henry and EQ? Furthermore, Hera grew apples! Eris, the goddess of discord, threw one of these apples onto a table occupied by Hera, Athena, and Aphrodite. The apple was said to be intended “for the fairest of all” – a line later copied for use in the Snow White story – and all three goddesses immediately disrupted the peaceful feast by fighting for the apple. When Prince Paris of Troy awarded the apple to Aphrodite, Hera and Athena sought revenge by supporting the Greeks against the Trojans in the Trojan War as described in Homer’s Iliad.

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    November 13, 2016 at 10:26 pm #330278
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Worth noting as well that Hephastuus is often called “the lame one” (Greek epithet: Ἀμφιγύεις) and depicted as having a twisted foot. Rumple having his hammer made me chuckle.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    November 15, 2016 at 4:33 pm #330395
    PriceofMagic
    Participant

    I’m surprised they didn’t go the obvious route with the hammer of a god. Disney owns Marvel so Thor seemed like the given, I wonder why they didn’t go there.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    November 16, 2016 at 12:23 am #330428
    Gaultheria
    Participant

    I’m surprised they didn’t go the obvious route with the hammer of a god. Disney owns Marvel so Thor seemed like the given, I wonder why they didn’t go there.

    I think it comes down to creation versus destruction, and the optimistic theme that’s part of the Henry stories. Hephaestus’ hammer is a tool for creation, but Thor’s is a weapon.

    Gaultheria's fanvids: http://youtube.com/sagethrasher

    November 16, 2016 at 1:35 am #330438
    Grimmsister
    Participant

    Maybe Henry can use this hammer to make some thingymabob that can trap Evil Queen. Because, as I just read on line, thats what Hepheastus did to his mother Hera (who we know was greek myth’s version of Evil Queen) He build her a golden chair which she became bound to and only he could free her. I would love them to use this story on Once, now that they brought in that particular hammer.

    November 18, 2016 at 1:55 am #330556
    Jiminy’s Journal
    Participant

    I just want to know two things:

    1. Why would Henry even need the Hammer to destroy Mushu’s heart?
    2. Umm, couldn’t Henry just speak into Mushu’s heart, to make him stop attack?

    Yeah, I know. My questions are pointless.

    November 18, 2016 at 9:09 am #330559
    Matt
    Participant

    Maybe Henry can use this hammer to make some thingymabob that can trap Evil Queen. Because, as I just read on line, thats what Hepheastus did to his mother Hera (who we know was greek myth’s version of Evil Queen) He build her a golden chair which she became bound to and only he could free her. I would love them to use this story on Once, now that they brought in that particular hammer.

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    You mean something like the golden bracelet that is now bound to Belle?

    November 18, 2016 at 9:37 am #330562
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I just want to know two things: 1. Why would Henry even need the Hammer to destroy Mushu’s heart? 2. Umm, couldn’t Henry just speak into Mushu’s heart, to make him stop attack? Yeah, I know. My questions are pointless.

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    Both excellent points. Both totally pointless.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    November 18, 2016 at 10:32 am #330566
    Matt
    Participant

    I just want to know two things: 1. Why would Henry even need the Hammer to destroy Mushu’s heart? 2. Umm, couldn’t Henry just speak into Mushu’s heart, to make him stop attack? Yeah, I know. My questions are pointless.

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    To address your second question, have we ever seen a non-magic user command someone to do something using their heart before? I’m guessing not just anyone could pick it up and make the dragon do something? I know Henry is the author, but his “power” seems to involve use of the quill/pen.

    November 20, 2016 at 2:57 pm #330592
    Jiminy’s Journal
    Participant
    Jiminy’s Journal wrote:

    I just want to know two things: 1. Why would Henry even need the Hammer to destroy Mushu’s heart? 2. Umm, couldn’t Henry just speak into Mushu’s heart, to make him stop attack? Yeah, I know. My questions are pointless.

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    To address your second question, have we ever seen a non-magic user command someone to do something using their heart before? I’m guessing not just anyone could pick it up and make the dragon do something? I know Henry is the author, but his “power” seems to involve use of the quill/pen.

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    Alice in “To Catch a Thief.” Will wasn’t able to stop trying to kill her, until she ordered him to.

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