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Reply To: The Captain Swan thread!

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › General discussion and theories › The Captain Swan thread! › Reply To: The Captain Swan thread!

April 20, 2017 at 10:26 am #336754
thedarkonedearie
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Plus this forum is so toxic. It’s quite a shame that Daniel spends every podcast talking about coming to the forum and discussing things. Maybe take a gander at your own forum before trying to convince people to post here, maybe there’s a reason why this site is so dead, aside from haters of the show and CS.

Yeah, Daniel is incredibly balanced, poised, and doesn’t seem to pick sides in shipping wars etc. which I really appreciate.  And as a result, his opinions come off as much more valid and with less inherent bias.  Really do love listening to him.  But yeah, I wonder if he knows how pro SF the forums truly are and how anti-Hook, anti-Emma, and anti-CS they are too.

Hook has absolutely changed, 100%, and people are so pressed they choose to ignore all the good he’s done and focus on the very small bad. Especially compared to other villains that get tons of chances.

Yeah, to me, and this is where many people on here come off as bias and bitter, and holding a grudge, I completely agree that Hook has changed.  Does he still make some mistakes like deciding to cover up his lie this season?  Sure.  But everyone makes mistakes.  It is so clear as day though that he’s not the same person and I maintain that the fact Emma was able to bring the goodness out of him and turn his life around is an incredible story.  Sometimes people just need something to fight for in order to get back to the straight and narrow.  Hook found that in Emma and I think that’s not only realistic, but rather moving.  And yes, as someone pointed out in the other forum, change needs to happen on the inside first (like with Regina).  Love can’t just fix it.  That is true, but I think Hook did change on the inside.  He made a decision to be a different man, a better man.  His motivation was to be with Emma, to prove to her that he can be that guy for her.  And people treat Hook as if he was always a bad guy in the past.  No, he actually was a noble captain once with good form who really started down the rocky path after his brother Liam died.  Death does that to people.  And Emma (love) brought him back.  I think it’s beautiful.

They will always fight for one another, neither of them will ever abandon the other.

 Mirrors Snowing.  I don;t recall anyone ever feeling that Snowing only cared about each other and were selfish.  Let’s see what everyone think when Hook and Emma help in the battle against the Black Fairy.

And several people on here are very much bitter about that being confirmed in the first place.

Yeah, I unfortunately agree with you.

Absolutely they are happy, just look at those smiles during the re-proposal. Anyone whom says Emma is not happy is just simply a bitter person with an agenda. Hook makes her happy and she makes him as well.

I also agree with this and it bugs me when others on here say they aren’t happy.  Have they even looked at them?  They would do anything for each other.

loved everything about the re-proposal, including the fact that Emma finally got told by Hook that he will always, always stay by her side. Which Emma has never had somebody like that, so it’s very good she has someone like that now.

I also did as well.  Thought it was great.

I thought Emma and Hook were endgame from 2×06 onward, and I was right. And yes that included marriage. Their storyline was crystal clear. Neal represented the past, and Killian the future. Glad I as did many many others read it right.

What’s funny is I also predicted this.  Emma had so much chemistry with Hook.  It started out as this weird hatred, but I thought the writers did an incredible job of writing their dynamic early on.  And personally, I always thought Neal was a little boring.  I liked him with Emma don’t get me wrong, but I always felt there was a strong force between Killian and Emma.  And I could tell pretty early on that she was going to end up with him, which meant that he had to turn his life around.  I did not think they were going to kill Neal though.  That was a surprise.

Side note about people criticizing Emma’s wardrobe in the episode. She was wearing a PETER PAN collar, in an episode where Captain Hook was in Neverland trying to get back to her with the assistance of Tiger Lily another Peter Pan character. If people didn’t get that the reason she wore that had to do with the many references to NVL that’s on them. But people will find any reason to hate on Emma, including her wardrobe she wears now which everyone has said has to do with her walls being down.

Ehh, I actually thought it looks quite weird myself.  It felt like an odd choice since she never wears anything like that.  But yeah, it’s a shame that all the CS fans were pushed away on here.  It would make things less one-sided and everything would come off less bitter and angry.  The forums on here can be quite depressing.  I mean I know the show isn’t perfect.  But there are still plenty of good things and everyone should be pumped for this wedding!  But no one is, bc no one on here supports it.

 

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