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Reply To: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Character discussion › Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire › Reply To: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

April 2, 2014 at 7:52 am #258300
Rainbow
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I dont know anymore, like i said here many times, besides the character death and how was handle, that made no  sense, they changed their story about rumple father between seasons, this was confirmed by RC, maybe was then that they decided to kill neal, but still looks like rush, just like they brought MRJ after 311 to do nothing, and on 1 epi they put everything the fans wanted to see, with no exact resolution, even the whole conversation between Neal and Emma on the forest was like between friends, not like 2 persons that said they love each other.

Do i think that maybe was actor asking out, maybe that is true, that rumour of the make up , that he was tired of the bad publicity, tired of being bullied, that for me has a lot to blame also on actors and writers, they should have come and step up about this whole ship thing, the fact that one day one fan said to MRJ that emma should end with hook bc neal was ugly and should have stayed dead and they tag colin on the tweet also, and he didnt came and say respect the persons, no they feed them bc they like the to see people fithing each other, and other things they feed with the whole ship thing. So i think MRJ was relieve and being out, and maybe is why the cast doesnt come to say anything, bc they knew that was maybe his decision, bc having a character in 2 epi like 5 minutes, none on the in another epi and then craziness in another and puff dies.

I do believe that dead is dead, hope that they dont bring people from dead on wonderland, will be dificult to explain why jafar can do it and the dark one cant, also rumple accepting neal dead is also pretty oc, so now he will move on with belle like nothing happened, all villains that used dark magic get to live and be happy and the person that most deserve dies, to became a hero bc he opened a damn vault, in a totally OC.So although i would like to know what RC thinks about this, story line, last time rumple thought SB was going to be destryoed, and then Henry was kidnap, so how he is going to react, to mourn his son, after not being controled by the WW anymore. I guess they will make all characters OC after this, with no sense in terms of past storyline.

You know how i could accept like this rush epi? if they came and say that MRJ had a better proposal and we have to eliminate neal, fast, bc he was to important to many characters to make him go back to ny, although they could have use the august story and bring back young bae with no memories of anything, i could even wish now that they could have changed the ideas and made neal and bae 2 diferent persons, maybe this way bae was still around. Bc that is my problem, bae myth on the story was erased, was like he was just a plot to emma, henry and rumple, as soon as he made peace with them was over, that is my problem with the show, is like the show ended on 311 and after that a new show started, well they did say a new way of telling the story was going to happen.

The thing is Bae/Neal was always in danger bc from all regulars he is the only one without a title and a fairy tale persona, everyone on sb have their personas in FL, even the other 2 original characters have titles, Savior and Truest Believer, he was no pirate, no evil queen, no prince charming, no snow white, no rumple, no belle.

After thinging the epi 315 with more calm and cold, and free on the spoiler, when is going to happen, how, to who, in which epi, bc there is also a proof, why not kill neal only on the season finale, and if they wanted him go dark, we would find out he was the one that cast the cusre and sacrifice himself by killing the witch, not wanting emma, rumple and regina go to the dark path bc of henry, that would have been huge and emotional, but let me continue, there are to many errors on the epi, starts on 314 at the ball, where is neal and belle looks like she is happy, if they dont know where is neal back then why they arent worried? who were all those people and what kindgom is that? the story line say 9 months ago, so how many months snow is pregnant, not 9, bc if is like normal people by now she should have the kid already, also on 314 she is pretty pregnant already.Then on 315, hook leaves the charmings and only after that neal talks with them about rumple and hok said that he heard him talk, then the whole OC Neal and Belle, and the fact that she said never saw lumiere there, so she pass time there and never meet him? is not strange that someone put him there? The neclace explanation but never a kiss, i mean she kiss graham, hook, walsh and on his last breath neal doesnt deserve a kiss, the hook and neal scene, that made me think that maybe hook almost knew that neal was going to die, belle found the symbol to fast,unlike on the EF, the whole hook and neal talk about the message, that is didnt understand, how emma had time to explain all, and even when she saw neal she was like oh, there you are, no hug nothing, and the jail story is all forgiven no worry, then another thing that i dont understand, when neal meets her at the woods, it appears that she said that she lost rumple, after the monkey atack, but neal was on the hospital, how could rumple be on the forest, then WW stays aloen with the body in the middle of the woods, this seems like was lets get this done, we are tired of you, you are tired of us, lets film this so that we go seperate lives. And now lets buring him, and we all move on, henry will have 2 new dads , a new aunt/or uncle, a new adopt aunt, and new step brother and they will always be happy forever.

I would prefer if this was really decide between seasons, maybe, maybe not( they could have decided after making MRJ regular) also a quote from MRJ in which he says after 301, the would be very surprised if they turn neal in some wizard, no i wonder if the signs were there and they intended to do this a possible death that could be brought back, but for some reason they decided from one minute to another kill him for good, like maybe actor request.

Guess they can still bring Dylan to younger bae, but the myth is broken, i prefer that they dont bring Dylan and MRJ anymore, Dylan bc is getting to old to make 14, and would be painfull, MRJ, bc simply for what, he doesnt have anymore connections on this world for us to see the after emma to NY, during emma i think would be to stupid i in present day she has another person, unless is on Henry mind or dreams make them talk or see him, like a guardian angel to emma , henry and rumple, in their minds, i dont know, it doesnt make sense they kill  character and then say that they intend to use the neal for fb, if they said bae, would be dylan, but they talk about MRJ, and even this season which is just lame. but i guess is waht the show is now, sorry about the ven i guess i now a stage 2 of loss, the anger part toward the show, and the writers and even until the actors that could have come and say something about the colleague, even when was his birthday no one said anything to MRJ, while with other actors they  all send HB wishes, then the unfollow twiter ABC, great spoiling the death, they even unfollowed dylan.

I do think they will regret about killing neal, and you know what i hope so, and i hope ratings show that  in a very low ones, so that haters stop saying that now the rating will raise bc there is no neal, from waht i saw online, many people are quiting, from several ships and parts of the fandom, even people saying that since monday people on bus and coffees and other public places talking  about how they didnt like the episode and will stp watching.Bc people want to believe  that we can get second chances and happy endings, and bae was like us, he symbol the casual viewer, and that breaks an audience, A/E may be on the edge of finding that in casual viewers neal was probably the most important character of the show, and i hope so, bc at least shows that theere was many people loving bae/neal.

Also a quick note, we are mourning the myth of show we spend time watching, Thank god we still have MRJ to see and talk about, not like glee that had to kill fin bc cory died, if other people dont understand is probably bc they never saw the symbol of the show and everything that surrounds Rumple and Bae story.

 

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