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Reply To: The Captain Swan thread!

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May 25, 2014 at 7:12 pm #271237
surayya
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I would think the adjustments for Hook after Colin broke his leg were more time related than character or plot related ( though I hate to use both of the words Plot and Character any more because of the rabid excuses delusionally spewed by anti Hook crusaders to try and explain why every OUAT should be 100% Neal driven)

“Time” meaning they put off a bit what they wanted to do, time wise, but not story wise.

I feel they had the premise of everything Hook laid out quite plainly in their minds regarding who Hook was becoming and how he was going to get there. It would have been great to see Bae/Hook reactions…if Bae had been portrayed decently as an adult. But that didn’t come to be. I still don’t see the brooding, dark little boy in surfer dude Neal at all. I don’t think Neal had much of anything to do with Hook during season 2. Hook was still driven by raging revenge against Rumple.

For me, the two grown men didn’t even exist in the same brain cels for Emma. Neal was all past/pain/resentment/anger and Hook was all present/future/avoiding emotions, sass and whacking him on the head (ha)

Good lord, I can quote now!!!!!!!! YAAAAAAAAY!!!!
Now back to business -I agree- esp with the time point you make, it’s what I feel as well.
I think we would have seen Hook progress character wise, to the point he was at in 3b, during the back half of S2 had Colin not broken his leg. Which is why I think they had Hook chill out a lot in back half of S2 (they couldnt get Colin on screen enough to redeem Hook’enough’ in time for where he needed to be for S3 otherwise).

Found this on Eala’s tumblr. She needs to get back here!!!

I don’t have any words……..

http://i-love-you-swan.tumblr.com/

…….BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is friggn hilarious!

Hook apologising to Belle was a must do in order to get me to like him. I liked his apology, I’ve seen complaints about it being insincere but I disagree, it was an in-character apology from a character who openly admitted a few episodes before that he doesn’t apologise often. The fact that he did apologise says a lot. I liked that Belle accepted it without rolling over, it showed she wasn’t a push over. Hook isn’t a sappy person therefore a sappy apology wouldn’t suit him. I don’t think his apology was just a show for Emma, Belle called him out in front of people, he probably felt uncomfortable because he knew he was in the wrong with what he did to Belle, and knowing you’re in the wrong in front of people is a very uncomfortable and awkward situation.

I agree with this, it was totally in character for both characters & while yes, I think Emma did have ‘words’ with Killy about clearing the air with Belle before they went to see her (I’m sure Killy would have pointed out he’d caused her harm in the past, so he’d unlikely be ‘welcomed’ into Gold’s store by Belle), Emma didnt “Force” him to appologise, he chose to, which as you say he doesnt do often, so should be taken for what it is supposed to be- Sorry.

The “people only like Hook because he’s attractive” argument holds no weight because, whilst he is easy on the eyes, that alone is not enough to make you like a character (also practically all of the male cast members on the show are attractive in some way (Rumple and Hook are constantly voted as the top 2 sexiest, most handsome, etc males on the show). Attractiveness alone is not enough to make you like a character. The best example to use is David and James. Both are played by the reasonably handsome Josh Dallas, yet you don’t hear anyone saying “OMG James is so hot!!! He should’ve been the centre of the show because he’s so attractive.” You mostly hear “James was a bit of a douchebag”. Hook has fans because of his personality which has improved considerably since his introduction.

YEP! *Nods in agreement*

Some CS fans have claimed that Hook has demonstrated “real love” for Emma because he still stuck by her even when she was verbally abusive to him in 3B. However I disagree with that opinion. 1. Emma hasn’t been verbally abusive towards Hook. She’s been blunt (she has her father’s tact) and whilst it was a bit harsh her saying that Zelena should’ve cursed the lips of someone she actually intended to kiss (Hook was stood right there Emma you could’ve been a bit less blunt on that matter), Emma never set out to deliberately hurt Hook’s feeling or diminish his self-esteem or sense of self-worth. 2. IF Emma had been abusive towards Hook, then why would you route for that sort of relationship for your favourite character? Why wouldn’t you want him to find someone else who treated him with respect and deserved him instead of someone who abused him? An abusive relationship is not “real love”.

Yes, I have to agree with you here as well- Emma was not abusive towards Hook, she was more than a little cruel in her harshness towards him on more than one occasion, but girl had her walls up trying to distance herself from him & everyone else she knew in SB to try ‘protect herself’. Was she ‘mean’ yes, but I dont consider her abusive o.O
Also agree that its more than a little twisted (thinking wise), to consider someone putting up with or sticking out, even verbal abuse as proof of ‘real/true love’ 🙁 Oats, Neal’s treatment of Emma is what sunk SF for me, if Emma did that to Killy (or vise versa), with such a poor, butt backward, lame excuse, I seriously doubt I could ship them either. It kind of sickens me to think there are people out there saying stuff like that.

I am interested to see how CS progresses next year. They’ve gone past the will they won’t they phase so now the writers need to give CS some actual storylines as a couple. Hopefully we’ll get a new set next year of Emma and Henry’s new apartment, Hook may not live there permanently but he’ll probably have his own toothbrush.

YES! Can it be S4 yet!?!

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