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Reply To: The Captain Swan thread!

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October 29, 2014 at 1:18 am #288007
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Hi, everyone. I haven’t posted over a week because we had a death in the family, but I finally got around to catching up. The first thing I have to address is how much I loathed the most recent episode…if anyone is a Regina fan, you might want to skip this post.

Ouch, bit of a drop that! To be expected though I guess given the promotional material they used. I know on a group with 7000 plus members not one person was looking forward to yesterdays episode & many didnt bother watching thanks to the couple of interviews Lana gave combined with the promo of Regina tearing strips off of Emma (many see it as the whine-gina hr & many have stated they arent interested in hearing it all again, they’ve had enough of it & want S3 Regina back)- many seem to have just waited for clips on youtube/tumbler etc. Which I think is a little sad, as the episode wasnt at all ‘bad’ IMO.

I have seen hundreds of posts since the episode that are seriously not impressed with Regina’s ranting at Emma & I will admit, it surprised me as I thought the evilregals were probably the biggest character fan base given how often I see ‘Regina is the best’ stuff all over the place, but seems it’s more they are one of the most vocal about their love & Emma does actually indeed have the most supporters, it’s just they tend to be quieter. It really has been nice to see Emma so well defended against Regina’s diatribe- even on reviews that accepted Regina’s ranting & bashing of Emma, the comments seem to be skewed towards disgust & disappointment at Regina for her hypocrisy & admiration for Emma, for her not throwing everything Regina has done to her, in Regina’s face.

Yeah. I was VERY put off by all of the interviews and promotions and had no desire to watch the ep live–and that made me really sad because this was a rare Emma flashback episode! But they made it all about freaking Regina. And the interviews…personally I was rather disgusted by some of the things Lana was saying–in one article, she describes the verbal abuse thrown at Emma and how “Emma just takes it, because she knows it’s deserved”. Are you KIDDING me?! Emma saves an innocent wife and mother and since it made Regina lose her boyfriend of less than a week, she deserves to be torn down and yelled at? I just…yeah.

Oh, no- I totally got why Regina was being a super *female dog*, thats just what many people have been saying online.
I too made the connection between Emma/Regina & Killian/Emma right away & understood why Emma wasnt biting back. I do have to admit, as I’ve already said, I wasnt a fan of Regina’s ranting though- given the context of the situation & what she has done to Emma, it felt more than a little hypocritical & hypocrisy drives me mental lol. I just FF her diatribe on my rewatching & the problem is solved for me lol. I’m what seems like, one of the few who actually ended up really enjoying the episode thanks to the Emma insights it gave us :)
I do agree with obisgril that only having Lana’s POV for the interviews did create biases against the episode with many though.

Here’s the thing for me–I honestly DON’T get why Regina was being a complete jerk to Emma (unless they’re setting her up to ultimately become a major villain for next season or something) because if she had really changed, and were really sorry for her past atrocities, she’d be glad that Emma prevented one of her murders. But no.

And @surayya, it’s also really the hypocrisy that gets to me too. It’s so frustrating; I can’t stand it. This gif set does a pretty good job of showing just a small part of that:










(Source: http://onceland.tumblr.com/post/101176592512)

And I honestly don’t see the parallels between this crap and Emma/Killian last season. Was Emma lashing out at him? Sure. Was she being a little unfair at times? Yes. But Killian really did kinda make a mistake by not telling Emma (or someone) about the whole cursed-lips thing (although I’m not sure how that would’ve turned out either). It was understandable for her to be mad at him for that. Regina being mad that Emma saved one of her (many, many) murder victims? Not remotely understandable. And Emma didn’t stand there and accuse Killian of having “ruined her life” when the exact opposite is true. Emma didn’t curse him to grow up alone and unloved, she didn’t murder the first woman he started to fall for in over a decade, and she hasn’t murdered anyone in his family. The situations aren’t at all comparable in my mind.

If they’re showing us how Regina hasn’t really changed, and I can look back at this and know that she eventually gets what she deserves, then I’ll at least be okay. If the show is implying that she HAS changed, and that she has the right to say those things and has redeemed herself…well, they’re doing an incredibly crappy job of it.

And just…Seeing someone torn down like that, especially someone who’s spent her whole life being told and shown that she’s unlovable and worthless (to the point that she felt she wasn’t good enough for her son)…it was just painful. So painful I couldn’t even enjoy the nice CS scenes at the beginning and end.

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