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Reply To: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Character discussion › Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire › Reply To: Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

December 5, 2014 at 2:08 pm #292205
PriceofMagic
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Breaking the rule again of posting ouat things here, but i blame @Jo.

I will post the link, bc has language and i dont have the will to take it.

http://sassyzinger.tumblr.com/post/104364249043/csers-dont-wanna-talk-about-how-hook-is-a

n.b: hope u are able to see this bc today i keep geting blank pages, and is very dificult to edit or write anything, white geting blank pages.

I keep getting blank pages too. It started yesterday.

The whole “rape culture” debate is getting ridiculous. Neither man is promoting rape culture and Neal certainly didn’t to anything wrong. He was in a consensual sexually active relationship with Emma. It’s not like SF were keeping track of each state’s laws to find out whether they could bang or not in that particular state. If Emma fully agreed to it and it was perfectly legal in other states to the north/west/south/east of whatever state they were in, then I don’t see why Neal and 17 year old Emma would be considered “statutory rape”. Also, Emma and Neal were breaking the law anyway, so a higher age of consent in one state isn’t going to stop them from doing something they’ve been doing legally in other states.

I can see why people don’t like Hook, I can see why people dislike CS, but Hook does not promote rape culture. Hook is certainly no Prince Charming but he never forces Emma or other women to do anything against their will. If Hook is guilty of anything, it’s probably being a bit sexist, with his season 2 self showing hints of chauvinism.

The only character on the show that comes close to promoting rape culture is Regina in regards to the whole Regina/Graham “relationship”. Normally the “rape is a special kind of evil” trope is used when the writers want to make a villain completely irredeemable. Villains can do all sorts of things and still be redeemable so long as they don’t cross that line. Regina crossed that line yet the writers have used the “double standards” trope so that she isn’t irredeemable, in fact they are trying to push Regina into hero territory. Even if the writers hand wave the Storybrooke side of the relationship (Graham kind of gave consent even if that consent is extremely morally dubious), there is no way the EF side of the relationship could be considered consensual. It’s coercion. However, because it’s female on male instead of the other way round, the issue hasn’t been given the screen time it would’ve gotten if it had been male on female. As a result of sweeping the whole thing under a rug, the writers and the show have really missed an opportunity to show a progressive attitude to such a sensitive issue.

On a different topic, I am really kind of starting to miss Neal. whether it’s because “absence makes the heart grow fonder”, the writers and the show messed up by killing him off. Besides the fact that Neal had lots of potential story to be told including what he did in the 6 months between falling through the portal and meeting the Darlings, Neverland (If they don’t do a Neverland spinoff on Bae’s time there and his run ins with Pan then they seriously threw away a great opportunity), and also what he did between leaving Emma and Emma finding him again. Imagine the emotional punches there would be if Bae was still in the story now and was under the “Shattered sight” spell. Imagine what he’d say to Rumple and Hook, to Regina and Emma, maybe even to Snowing too. So much wasted story potential.

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