“Built” is such a subjective word. CS are probably going to be endgame, it’s too late to change that at this point especially if season 6 or 7 is the last, but CS didn’t come about naturally. It was forced by the writers because certain vocal fans demanded it. A flashing neon sign would’ve been more subtle. It won’t be King George. George is dead. He starved to death off-screen in the mines where Charming dumped him before jetting off to Neverland for a week without telling anyone about George being in the mines. What’s worse is both of George’s hands were tied so he wouldn’t have been able to do anything for himself.
CS didn’t come naturally? I would say that’s just completely ignoring canon. CS was born in Tallahassee when they purposely paralleled SF flashbacks w/ CS in the present. It’s grown very much since then. It was not forced on anybody. Do you know whom are the people that claim this? The same ones that are still bitter Neal died. IDK why King George can’t be the murderer based on what you said. You are aware Charming’s father was murdered in the EF and not in SB correct? Cause based on what you said…you somehow think Charming’s father died while in SB and that’s not possible.
Hook very well could die or split from Emma. Unless you know what the writers have planned. Afterall, other characters who had relevance in the story and were built up died with absolutely no payoff at all.
Let me guess, you somehow think Neal is going to be miraculously resurrected in the finale don’t you? Hook is not a Neal, Robin, or anyone else that has died. He’s actually relevant. If I was to place money on somebody that was gonna die this season it would be Zelena. Because she is the definition of irrelevant right now.
In fact, I’d go so far as to propose that Emma and Hook were definitively revealed not to have true love in season five whenever their kiss failed to break Emma’s dark one curse (on multiple occasions) or when Emma failed to share her heart with Hook in season 5b. I know CS fans will point at the “true love shove” as “evidence” that Emma and Hook share real love, but in my estimation, all it revealed was that Emma’s heart has true love because she <em style=”box-sizing: border-box; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, serif; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.74902);”>is the product of true love. It was just ambiguously written enough that people will interpret it according to their prior assumptions. While I don’t think A&E are especially gifted writers, I think they’re just talented enough to keep people guessing and debatin
Well the show completely contradicted your POV on multiple occassions. For someone whom pays attention to “canon” you sure are ignoring some pretty big things. 1. They gave specific reasons within the episode as to why those kisses did not work. The first one was that Emma did not think anything was wrong with her. The second failed one was specifically stated by Rumple. Emma liked the darkness, and the power charge she got from it. That’s why that kiss did not work. 2. Emma failed to share her heart with Hook because as the show stated Hook was a rotting corpse in SB. The only reason the Snowing one was successful was because Charming was dead for a very small amount of time. This was stated in dialogue. 3. “True love shove”, funny because the people that say that are the ones that like to mock CS and say that Emma and Regina are a romantic pairing. But enough about that, it’s not only CS fans though. The entire cast including Adam and Eddy spent the entire time at Comic Con reinforcing that Emma and Hook are true love. So not that ambiguous seeing as they point blank said it loud and clear at CC, and Jennifer and Colin said it in basically every interview.
Thirdly, CS did have chemistry in Tallahassee, then they had Hook betray Emma to Cora and leave her to die. When Hook got to Storybrooke, they had him torture Archie and shoot Belle. Both were innocents who hadn’t done any harm to Hook. Hook followed Emma to new York and pushed her into a wall so he could stab Rumple. He betrayed Regina to GOAT without a care before changing his mind and going to Neverland with the Nevengers. In Neverland Hook spent the majority of his time more interested in getting in Emma’s pants than he was in helping Henry (This was a major disservice to Hook’s character as Neverland should’ve been Hook’s chance to shine but instead he was reduced to a love triangle). 3B, He spends his time chasing after Emma despite her showing no interest, she eventually gives in during the 3B finale. In 4A, despite being with Emma, Hook acted shady with trying to blackmail Rumple then didn’t like it when it backfired on him. 4B, Hook was relegated to boyfriend patrol. 5A Hook turned on Emma as the dark one and wanted to send her and her family to hell. You can’t say “it was the darkness not him” otherwise you have to extend that excuse to Rumple’s actions as well since he was the dark one from 3B-4B. Rumple was still capable of love as the dark one. 5B, Hook was boyfriend patrol again and got resurrected because he’s Hook. 6A has actually been an improvement because Hook is showing some genuine effort in trying to make amends particularly with Belle. Essentially there is no reason why Emma would’ve given Hook the time of day as a romance before 6A but they were thrown together because a certain vocal part of the OUAT fandom demanded it. It wasn’t built up to. OQ suffers from similar lazy writing. If the writers wanted CS together from the start, then maybe they should’ve thrown out some more Tallahassee like episodes where you actually see the chemistry between the two and have Hook be more like he is in 6A. 6A Hook needed to happen several seasons ago, at the very least in 3B. Fourthly, the fact that you claim Neal dying is the only reason people don’t like CS because they’re “bitter” implies that the thought of SF still bothers you. SF was probably the biggest hurdle to CS and, despite two and a half seasons passing since then, you don’t seem to accept that people can dislike CS for other reasons beside Neal. Ironically killing off Neal was the worst thing to happen to CS because Emma never chose Hook over Neal. Neal was taken out of the equation, leaving Hook as the only option left. It does beg the question as to WHY Neal was killed off instead of having Emma and Neal move on from each other. Fifthly, nobody expects Neal to be magically resurrected because the writers have ballsed up the show enough without further complicating matters. People don’t like CS but they’ve accepted it at this point, why the hell would the writers throw the love triangle back into the mix? Sixthly, Hook’s not going to die. He’s not important enough for a big show ending death plus they threw aside the “dead is dead” rule for him so I seriously doubt they’d kill him off for good. Seventhly, TLK should’ve at least started to work. It began to work on Rumple in Skin Deep and he definitely “liked the darkness”. Saying it didn’t work at all because Emma “liked the darkness” is rubbish. Eighthly, The heart share failure because Hook was a rotting corpse doesn’t make sense when it comes to Hook’s resurrection. Assuming it was just Hook’s soul in the Underworld (which then begs the question how the regulars’ physical bodies could be in the Underworld), when Hook was brought back was his soul just made corporeal or was it just put back in his physical body? Hook didn’t look like he’d just crawled out of his own grave. Is there still a rotting Hook corpse buried in Storybrooke graveyard? Finally, the fact that A&E plus JMo and Colin constantly have to “reinforce” that Hook and Emma are “true love” says quite a lot about the writing. The audience shouldn’t have to be TOLD they’re true love, they should be SHOWN it. Every chance the writers had to show that CS is true love, they didn’t take it. Doesn’t it make you wonder why?
My goodness. Reading this entire post I see that very obvious double standard in this fandom shining like a neon light…where to start.
1. Why are you holding Hook to things he did in S2 now? Especially when since then he’s changed so much. I know that’s contrary to what many people’s headcanons of the character are. Yes he shot Belle, and in S6A Belle stated that she has changed since then and he’s not the same person.
But if we’re going to do this to S2, I would appreciate if you don’t forget some details you’re omitting. The biggest detail to recall is that after the beanstalk Emma and Hook were on opposite sides. Emma betrayed him because she could not take the chance she’s wrong about him like she was about Neal. So when he left her in the cell it was after she left him on the beanstalk and for all he knew she left him to die.
Continuing on you say that he left Regina to Gregmara. Let us not forget the previous episode when Regina pushed Hook to what she thought was his death at the hands of Malificent so she could get the failsafe. So Regina had it coming, she tried to kill him the previous episode so why should he assist her? He also changed his motive because Emma gave him the chance to be a part of something as well as what happened with him and Neal in the past. It wasn’t just for giggles that he changed.
Now as far as Neverland goes I have to ask how you honestly think Hook was trying to get into Emma’s pants. Cause from what I recall he was trying to get closer to her but not with the intentions of having sex with her. If that was the case he wouldn’t have backed off the way he did in episode 10. Besides that Emma initiated their first kiss and mind you he was joking about the “reward” and that has been confirmed by the writers and Colin. He had no idea that Emma was gonna kiss him. She’s the one that took the initiative and she clearly liked it. In Dark Hallow he told her that he has complete faith in her that she will find Henry and he’s made his intentions clear. Winning her heart to me doesn’t sound like wanting to get into her pants, and he even said it would be when she wants him. He wouldn’t force it on her. And that’s not to recall in 3×10 he backed off completely because Henry deserved a chance at a real family.
3B time, Hook chased Emma, may I ask what episode was this? And Emma showed no interest really…so that scene in the forest in 3×14 “if it can be broken means it still works” or Emma in 3×17 or Emma in 3×20…she showed zero interest in Hook? Please watch 3×05, 3×07, 3×11, Sure okay. Hook chased Emma though, that’s why he spent episodes 3×17 to 3×20 trying to avoid her because he did not want to place any of her family in danger and he wanted to protect them. Hook wanted to get in her pants and chased her…man he sure epically failed though. Because he had the key to her falling in his lap the entire season and yet he waited till she asked him once again in the season finale what happened to the Jolly Roger. The way you make it sound Emma was forced into a relationship with Hook in the finale, and maybe that’s how you see it in your headcanons, that is not how it was displayed on the show.
Your 4A point I’m not gonna entertain but S4B Hook was not just relegated to boyfriend patrol. He had many wonderful scenes with Emma, he discussed his happy ending, he and Emma both discussed the situation with Snowing. It’s because of Hook’s discussion with Emma that she saw the error of her ways and decided that her parents were doing what was best for her because they loved her.
5A after a season where Hook was literally one of the only people that gave a dang about Emma and helping her fight the Dark One. This was demonstrated multiple times throughout the arc he was then forced to be the Dark One because Emma selfishly decided to save him and sorry Emma can definitely be selfish in this situation especially when Regina was being an absolute hypocrite in The Price. Hook told Emma he wasn’t as strong as her, he’s weak, he couldn’t fight the darkness and that was true. It was clearly painted as that was not Hook, it was Nimue manipulating him. When Hook snapped out of it in 5×11 he sacrificed his life to save everyone for the chaos he created and no that is not why Hook was resurrected in 5B. He was resurrected because he helped the heroes take down Hades and Zeus decided that he was going to go to where he belonged which was by Emma’s side. I mean when you’ve got a Greek God saying you belong together, that’s a pretty big indication.
Moving on to your other points.
4. No SF does not bother me, it’s irrelevant. It’s pointless, it’s not worth the time of day. Clearly cause you know look at what happened on the show and as far as Emma not choosing Hook over Neal. That kind of happened in Going Home when she told Hook to his “There’s not a day will go by when I won’t think of you” “Good”. That was a heavy indication and what did Neal get…yeah nothing. I mean if 3×10 wasn’t clear enough, you know Neal sitting alone in the shop…IDK what else to say.
On your 7th point, ah I see so you ignore actual canon and dialogue on the show and focus on head canons okay. Well that’s what was stated on the show, Emma liked the darkness, that’s why that kiss did not work. Rumple was also caught off guard and it was Belle that kissed him, not the other way around. Emma kissed Hook that time. Hook kissed Emma in SB when she believed nothing was wrong with her so it was never going to work on her. Again stated on the show in dialogue, not headcanons.
Eight point. Again stated on the show. Hades stated that Hook was a rotting corpse in SB while they were working in the UW to get him back. As for the other part Zeus said he’s bringing Killian back to where he belonged. It was clearly his pyshical body brought back. He was brought back literally in front of his grave, see the screencaps of that scene for further proof. If you don’t want to accept canon and dialogue over your own headcanons that’s your perogative but I choose to believe what’s on the screen and what is stated in the dialogue.
Final point, no it doesn’t make me wonder why because unlike you I don’t think it’s vague. The audience are shown how Emma and Hook are true love. The consistent parallels to Snowing(from there meaning, to the adventure, being able to sense one another), the echoing of the iconic quote, the passing of the true love test, which afterwards they literally stated “it’s true love. Emma you chose me, that was the test”. None of that is subtle or vague. It’s only subtle or vague to the people that refuse to see CS for what it is. A canon true love couple.