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YES! Finally someone else who sides with me! Some good stuff here. Let’s see if I can pull apart some things.
Hook has not changed.
So back when he was a legit pirate, Hook would have given Belle a place to stay on his ship without the intention of sleeping with her and would have saved her life and Rumple’s, the man he hated? What about not letting Charming kill King George? You think he would have intervened in the past? No way. He absolutely would not have done any of those things. That’s the definition of change. Does he still do things that are morally gray, yup. But he has definitely changed. Not seeing that is pretty thick.
And barely, because yesterday he was hardly there because he was going to leave a woman who was abandoned as a child and travel to another realm without saying anything.
But he didn’t. He wasn’t going to leave. It’s literally the exact opposite of the dreamcatcher. He was going to do that but wasn’t going to leave on the ship. You crucify him for thinking, and then making the wrong decision but then crucify him again when he thinks and then makes the right decision? Like, come on. The guy can’t win in your eyes. Your preconceived opinions regarding Hook and his past bad behaviors seems to not let you critique him fairly in the present.
Hook did intervene with Belle, but he must have been right there. It is just the barest level of humanity to me. It is not some great deed. He stepped in to stop squirrelly little Jekyll who was no real danger to Hook.
And again, what about when he saved Henry? Was Liam not a legitimate threat too? And you can’t say that he only saved Henry bc he’s Emma’s son. Everyone is frikin related on this show. He has saved Belle, Rumple, Henry, Charming from committing murder when both he and Charming thought King George killed his father….what else does he have to do to prove he has at least changed a little for you? Again, he sometimes makes mistakes but people change and still make mistakes all the time.
Firstly, Hook should get total props for helping Belle. I’m not talking about saving her from Jekyll (that’s just basic human decency), I’m talking about him offering Belle a place to stay after she left Rumple. The genuine apology was a welcome bonus but he stepped up to help Belle out especially when Emma didn’t give a damn to try and assist Belle in any way. Belle went to Granny’s to ask for a room and Emma’s response was basically “You don’t want to stay here, it’s awful”. That was it. So not only did Emma disrespect Granny by speaking ill of her business but she also didn’t offer Belle any alternative place to stay. It was Hook who actually did the decent thing and provided Belle with some accommodation when she had no where else to go.
Thank you. For the love of God, thank you.
Secondly, in regards to Hook trying to burn the memory of killing Charming’s father rather than tell Emma, I don’t hold it against him. It wasn’t the right thing to do but it makes sense. He’d summoned up the courage (dutch courage) to tell her the truth and before he gets the chance, she catches him off guard with the ring. There is a reason why you’re supposed to listen and give people a chance to talk when they are trying to disclose something, it’s because that might be the only chance they do. It takes a lot of courage to admit something, to the point it could literally be a “now or never” situation. Hook got drunk because he needed to, in order to have the courage to tell Emma about what he did, but then then because she jumped him with the ring, the moment was gone and Hook then didn’t have the courage. He knows he should tell her the truth, he’s been told he should tell her the truth, but that doesn’t make doing so any easier. Hook went to the next logical solution, if he couldn’t tell Emma then he’d get rid of the memory all together. It wasn’t right but I can see why he did it.
Yes. Why does Hook get zero points for trying to come clean before he was interrupted by Emma? Yes, he regressed and wasn’t going to tell her, but can’t you guys empathize with his situation a little? Getting something that huge off your chest has to be so hard to do. And he clearly wanted to do the right thing. It’s not like he immediately went to the dreamcatcher and erased his memories. He thought on it for days, then tried to tell Emma. Sought advice from like a bunch of people. Haven’t you ever had a horrible secret you felt you needed to tell somebody but you were so afraid they would judge you and think differently of you, and since you were afraid to lose them, you decided not to tell them….until it finally eats you alive and you realize you have to tell them? That’s what this is! I know Daniel can empathize with Hook.
Is it sympathetic? Sure.
And do we really think we would sympathize with Hook if he hadn’t changed as person, even just a little?
Charming is the one who knew him and had an emotional connection to him. Emma has never seen him, never spoken to him, and the fact she can recognize him in the memory is mind boggling. Charming should be upset Hook murdered him. Emma should be upset Hook would rather hide the truth than be real with her. The murder is bad but keeping the secret is worse. From Emma’s perspective.
Yeah I actually agree with this. I thought Emma’s behavior was justified in this scene. She didn’t even know her grandfather. She should be more upset about Hook keeping it from her. And based on all the lies both have told, it made sense for her to give him back the ring.