I think that this conversation is different because a lot of times we are having the conversation about the in universe point of view verses the writer point of view and that is interesting. We are talking about the larger themes of the show and how those can impact the audience. I think that things are being said happened on the show that did not happen on the show, in my opinion. The Hook fan rhetoric is not really something i am really interested in seeing in the swanfire thread.
At least not when the people stating the Hook fan rhetoric don’t really want to have a discussion. They just want to state “facts” and be agreed with and that is it.