IMO SF = TL ship discussion should stay in the SF shipping thread (or at least out of the CS ship forum). It is rude & obnoxious to expect CSers that follow cannon to entertain SF= TL “discussion” in their own ship’s forum.
So, while I appreciate the renewed interest in this thread, this I can’t stand. This thread was dead on here for three seasons. I decided to revive it to “bring some balance” to this forum which I felt had leaned far too heavily on the SF side of things and the Hook bashing was getting ridiculous. That being said, I started posting in this thread again with the idea that everyone would be allowed to voice their opinions, regardless of what ship they like. This is still a safe haven for CS fans. I was the one who revived this thread and I think everyone’s opinion is important. It gives the show a less biased perspective. And quite frankly, to say other people who want to bring up the SF true love discussion as it pertains to the CS true love discussion don’t belong here and that it is rude and obnoxious, is in and of itself, RUDE AND OBNOXIOUS. Who are you the thread police? Last time I checked it was an open thread and anyone could post in it as long as it was relevant to the thread’s topic. This topic is CS. The discussion shifted toward whether CS really are officially true love and why didn’t share TLK. That set up a compare and contrast debate between the true love discussion between Emma and Neal and whether it was just first love. If you decide you want to react harshly to someone who believes differently than you about a friking tv show, well then go right ahead. But now you are the one being rude and obnoxious. I posted in this thread again to encourage not only CS fans to start posting again, but also to invite SF fans to chime in with how they feel as well. The fact this cannot be done cordially is sad, childish, and pathetic. The people in the SF thread on these forums always encourage CS fans to post in their thread, as long as it wasn’t malicious. I don’t know why a CS fan would want to post in that thread bc the debate is so incredibly biased and one-sided but such is a ship thread in general. I don’t know why we cannot do the same in this thread. Stop acting like little babies. I encourage the SF fans to continue posting in here going forward as long as it’s relevant, and I’m sorry there has been so much hostility since reviving this thread. Now as far as Neal and Emma go, I do think it’s possible that one person can love someone else but the other doesn’t love them. However, with true love, I feel like you can’t even obtain true love unless the feeling of love is mutual right? And although A&E make it seem like they planned CS right from the beginning, are you guys really that delusional that you believe them? And now I’m talking to the CS fans out there….. When Hook was first introduced in season 2, I don’t think anyone can really definitively say that they had that planned since the beginning. These writers don’t plan anything longer than a few weeks at a time it seems. I mean it’s a nice story, and definitely in season 3 I felt the narrative with Hook changed and I saw the writing on the wall, but despite how nice it would be knowing that CS was the plan all along, in season 2 it did not feel like that, and then I think the writers saw the chemistry between Hook and Emma, and they, along with the network, went with it. What do you think? Do you really think right from the start it was always the plan to put Emma and Hook together? Can someone find me lines of dialogue in season 2 that support your reasoning? Not what an A&E said. To me, what comes out of their mouth means nothing.
CS was absolutely the plan from get go. I always found in intriguing that the one episode in the show Emma never appeared in was the introduction episode of her true love.
And on top of that just look at 2×06, the writing in that episode is completely clear. Neal was the past, and Hook was the future.
She started having strong feelings for Hook but couldn’t take a chance that she was wrong about him, the same way she took the chance with Neal. She couldn’t do it again. CS was obviously the plan from the beginning, the fact that they wrote their stories as being kindred spirits and being able to connect and understand each other when nobody else could was another clear indication.
I’m pretty sure there would have been way more CS development in S2B if Colin did not break his foot. That completely screwed over all the plans. They had to shelf everything to S3. I firmly believe if Colin did not break his foot, CS would have gotten a lot closer if not kissed before the end of S2. The triangle would have been way more present as well and I believe Neal’s death would have actually stuck and he wouldn’t have survived.