@Kellyn1604 wrote:
I see Rumple’s power as being layered.
Just like love is. 😉
So he gained new powers in order to be able to create the curse. Maybe the the powers he has right now are those extra ones that aren’t tied into the Dark One curse. So, I don’t think even with magic in Storybrooke the dagger will be able to control him.
I like that idea, that the only powers he has now are additional ones he learned, and the essence of the actual Dark One is no longer in effect. Problem is, I keep coming back to, “The Dark One summons thee,” in Broken, because that just doesn’t fit.
It would make sense to me if he wasn’t the Dark One any more. It explains away the kissing not having an effect, (you know that’s not the only time they’ve kissed in SB…there was that scene where Belle woke up and noticed he wasn’t in bed beside her, so there’s been kissing), because if he’s not cursed, then there’s nothing for the kiss to fix. But that dang Broken scene just doesn’t jive with that! GAH! *headdesk*
Could the dagger still have held a certain amount of power, the way Regina’s trinkets did? Not running at full capacity, but just enough juice to perform a trick or two, like summoning a Wraith?
@Mich7 wrote:
I was basing it on what Emma said…her assumption is that he is indeed immortal but you are correct we really don’t know that for sure however I wouldn’t put it past the writers to let her saying that be their way of confirming it…they’ve been leaving a lot open like that lately.
Perhaps they’ve made a point of people saying it, because everyone believes it to be true, but they’re setting it up to shock everyone and show that it’s actually quite the opposite, and he can be killed/injured like any old mortal can be. (I don’t believe he’ll be killed off at all, but think it’d be interesting to see him critically injured by a stab wound.)
As for Belle’s true love’s kiss…one of the big mysteries of OUaT for me personally…it’s supposed to be able to break any curse and yet Rumple resisted when she first kissed him…I’m beginning to wonder if the one who is cursed is unwilling to give up their curse that even true loves kiss might not be able to break it. If that were true, Belle kissing him might not matter…either that or he has perfected a way to resist.
That sounds like a reasonable explanation, that one has to be willing to give up the curse for the kiss to work. The other time we saw a kiss not work was with Snowing, when she didn’t remember. The kiss did work when he almost sacrificed his life for her, so it’s fair to say that she was willing to give it up when that happened and they kissed again.
So perhaps Rumple just isn’t willing to let his curse go yet, and no amount of kissing can change that. Only glitch with that is that when he kissed her in the hospital, I got the sense that in that moment, he would have given it all up to bring her back. But it didn’t appear to affect him.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
I can only imagine the flowcharts filled with facts that are sitting in those creative offices. How do they ever keep track of everything!
For real! It’d be like a chaotic work of art.