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Re: episode summary

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season One › 1×19 "The Return" › episode summary › Re: episode summary

April 14, 2012 at 8:51 am #142164
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@Surayya wrote:

Also we mostly just see the doors which like 99% of household doors (my own wardrobe included) are much lower than the ceiling or internal height. The images we see looking through the wardrobe show the internal space as being much more hollowed out than just from the door down & last but not least – its TV, budget is budget, if you can use a smaller scale model because its not a major feature in many scenes, you do – just because it doesnt look entirely large enough doesnt mean it isnt when you take into consideration we’ve been told SW is/;was going to go through

Fair point I suppose. I still say it didn’t look wide enough or deep enough to take a heavily pregnant woman though. 😛

@Surayya wrote:

BF “The tree is enchanted, if fashioned into a vessel it can ward off any curse” ……. Now the term vessel used in this context = 1. A hollow utensil, such as a cup, vase, or pitcher, used as a container, especially for liquids. Or in this case a wardrobe.

Just because we saw what was left of the tree made into a wardrobe in this instance, that doesn’t mean it was the ONLY type of vessel that could have been made from the tree, which would maintain the enchantment. Pinocchio’s puppet body was a vessel for his human spirit. If he was made from the tree, it still fits with the statement she made.

@Surayya wrote:

BF “This will work, we ALL must have faith. There is however a catch, the enchantment is indeed powerful, but all power has its limits & this tree can PROTECT only one” Now she clearly said point blank here 1, Not 2, 1 (so if they send another through via that same tree & they are PROTECTED from the curse ie have memories in tack & happiness in their lives, then I’ll be really annoyed as that is a massive discrepancy in the story arc & if it’s handled like that its just poor writing, which I highly doubt is likely).

What was left of the tree could only ward off the curse for one person. As I said previously, if Pinocchio was made from the tree, he was ALREADY protected. To add to that thought, if he WAS protected from the curse, what would have happened to him if he’d stayed in FTL? When everyone else got swept away and the land was destroyed, would the poor kid have been left there alone? All the more reason for Blue Fairy to send him away with Emma.

@Surayya wrote:

No she didnt say it transports the person in it- that is just a given (at least it is for me & everyone Ive spoken to about it)

It’s a fair assumption to make based on what we saw happen, which is why it’s what everyone, (including myself up until yesterday) has assumed and accepted as fact. But if you take her words exactly as spoken, without assuming anything beyond that, she clearly didn’t specify that the protection she spoke of involved transportation to another world.

@Surayya wrote:

Yeah sorry but if we go with the good guys are just lying, then we have to consider everything we’ve heard out of every ‘good’ guy’s mouth is all just lies- so nope, Im not buying that, we’ve seen Zero evidence for it nor anything that could even be termed a white lie from BF

I put the bit on the end of my last post about her straight up lying, because I know that not everyone would be willing to automatically buy the theory I’d just spelled out.

She would have been lying, if “protection” = “transportation”. So if you don’t wanna believe that Blue Fairy is a straight up liar, then “protection” NOT EQUALING “transportation” would be a way people could accept the storyline. The whole “only one can be protected” argument is one sticking point that people have with him being Pinocchio. I’m just saying, they could make it work without having to compromise what they’ve already shown us.

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