@slurpeez108 wrote:
Magic wasn’t in our world until Mr. Gold used the potion of true love to bring it here.
1. Magic from fairy dust is what powers and gives light to fairy-tale land, not our world. The Blue Fairy, who is the Blue Star, uses magic to powers that world. What powers and gives light to our our world is the sun, also a star, but in the form of nuclear fusion rather than magic. Different worlds have different basic principles. For all we know, FTL isn’t even in the same universe. It could be a parallel dimension in another universe.
Don’t quite agree with this point, not with the sun powering our world while FTL is powered by fairydust. They very well have a sun and moon in FTL too, don’t think that powering the world was meant in that kind of physical way, more in a metaphysical sense. After all it’s fairy tale, fantasy, not science fiction (although the lines between the genres are somewhat blurred in general)
@slurpeez108 wrote:
2. Emma and Pinocchio came through a magic wardrobe which was powerful enough to create a portal from the EF to our world. This does’t mean the tree in our world was magic to start with; it’s just where the magical portal from the EF opened up.
3. Magic was not indigenous to our world before the curse. It was the dark curse, which originated in the EF, that created Stroybrooke and brought over all of the cursed inhabitants, frozen in time, to Maine.
4. Jefferson’s hat couldn’t transport Rumplestiltskin to our world because there was no magic in it. It is a limitation of the hat that it must have magic on both openings to work. Regina said in 1×21 the only magic in this world was the magic she brought over from the EF. The only reason Regina could use Jefferson’s hat to grab the poisoned apple is because she used up the only magic she had left from her enchanted ring with Daniel’s picture. That magic was from the EF not our world.
5. True love did not have magical properties in our world before Rumple brought magic. We saw MM and David kiss and nothing happened. Only Emma, who is True Love Incarnate, was able to break the dark curse, which originated in the EF. Only Emma had the power to break the curse, because she is magic and she isn’t from our world. She was born in the EF and then came here via en enchanted wardrobe.
Agree with these points. And right, forget what Regina said, when they used the hat, thanks for reminding.
Possible, that ,after Mr. Gold brought some magic to Storybrook, any FTL kind magic is nevertheless confined to Storybrook, as a sort of FTL bubble in our world. So in our world there might be still no magic of that kind working, only in Storybrook. Think, that is very likely, the barriere is taking away the FTL identity of a person, and that might include their magic abilities, not just their knowledge of it (would be interesting what happens then to Emma, when crossing the line)
@Gypsy wrote:
Nova says to Dreamy/Grumpy “….As Fairies, we get to spend very little time in YOUR world…”
That tells me, Fairies aren’t from the EF, so, when BF says “….powers the WORLD…” she is not speaking of just the EF.
Beg to differ. The lives of fairies and dwarfes couldn’t be more different, and I think that was what Nova meant in that moment. Fairies have their duties and keep pretty much to themselves as dwarfs seem to do as well. While Dwarfs spend most of their lives working in mines, in the earth so to speak, fairies are beings of air, living in some place in the sky maybe (could get that impression in the episode). Possible, that fairies are living in a different world than the other FTL character, other world than where the Enchanted Forest is, but that still doesn’t make it impossible for our world to be a world without magic. Neither Nova nor Blue Fairy used world and land in plural – so, could be understood that everything is in one world (what though would contradict your point here with what Nova said to Dreamy/Grumpy) or that they’re talking just about the world they are living in, so it’s more likely they are actually talking of the Enchanted Forest, Fairy Tale Land when saying, magic powers the world. Either way, as I see it’s not an argument for magic existing in every world.
There is more than one magical realm, that much was said, and you can only move between them by finding some kind of portal between these worlds, the beans create such portals, the hat is a portal, mirrors can be. That in all of these worlds magic exist, doesn’t has to mean, they are all powered by it, particular not if you look at it more in a metaphysical way, as what is the fundamental nature of a world (Is magic the fundamental nature of Wonderland? Of Neverland?). And nature in this view means, what basically drives the world and the beings in the world, what is its essence. Not to mention it means, there could be worlds without magic.
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