@Betsypaige24 wrote:
I don’t think he has to be mortal to repair his relationship with Bae. Bae got a real glimpse of the man his father can be with the phone call to Belle, but really he only knows his father as a boy knows his father. As a boy, what could he have possibly understood about how damaged his papa was and the complexities of life? All he saw was that his papa chose power over him. Yes that was true, but Rumple regretted it the moment he let go.
This is sort of what I’m getting at when I say he’ll have to be mortal for the reconciliation to happen. It’s that the gesture of finally giving up that power in an effort to protect Henry is the exact opposite of what happened when he chose his power over being with Bae. It’s the ultimate way for him to prove that he’s changed. Nealfire overhearing the phonecall was wonderful, FEELS galore, but since then he’s seen nothing to back that impression up, in fact, he’s seen the opposite, so it’s gonna take a massive effort from Rumple to prove himself, and giving up the Dark One is the most emphatic proof.
I will be very upset if Belle does not play a huge part in helping bridge the gap as they really have played up the Belle/Bae angle and how devoted she is to him. Belle was an adult when she met Rumple, a very perceptive and kind adult, who could understand how damaged he was, how he hated himself. She knows his father as he does not know him……
I’d love it if Belle plays a role in reuniting them physically as well as emotionally. There’s so much potential for Nealfire to learn about his father from Belle.
It’s actually not a huge deal to me as I think about it because I don’t need any proof of their true love; IMO, what Belle has done for him as a man is far more important than breaking the curse. She has loved him so much, for so long; she has believed in him, fought for him, supported him, had faith in him. As a result, he’s changed, is changing and wants to change. He’s always felt a tremendous amount of guilt for his past, but until Belle, Gold thought that good man had died; he didn’t think he could ever be that. Now she makes him want to be his best self and even as he might struggle, it’s stil a beautiful thing to see. He knows she loves him absolutely, doesn’t ever question that any more (see phone call scene), has made him believe that he is a good man, that he can be better. So for me, curse or not, what Belle has done for him already has been pretty wonderful, lol.
Agreed with all of that. There’s no question as to the depth of their true love. Most people have been expecting for ages that the TLK will be what cures him, because it’s the standard method of curse breaking for couples. Many people have questioned why her kissing him in SB didn’t strip him of his curse, like it started to back in FTL. That’s why I mentioned that maybe the TLK was a one shot deal that’s now not an option as his cure. I agree that they don’t need a TLK to prove anything about their compatibility.
LOL like matter and anti-matter colliding, all that’s necessary is for one extra particle of matter to survive (as opposed to one extra particle of anti-matter, which would mean the end of the universe, lol). So yeah, I definitely see Pan and Gold going at it. Gold thinks he’s going to die, which means he doesn’t have a lot to lose, which means an all out war….and PP will be on the losing end.
Exactly! Would be sort of poetic, given that Rumple’s downward spiral began when he ran away from a battle, and here we see him walking directly into one as his ultimate act of redemption.
Robert would OWN every single scene of Rumple having to come to terms with being mortal again. It would be beautiful to watch.
Yes he would.. I actually think he’d want to be mortal again. I mean, he’s got to have been exhausted living this long – and being immortal is complicated. He couldn’t ever bear to watch Belle age and die; I think he’d find a way to kill himself to be with her rather than live an eternity without her.
I kind of think that if he becomes mortal, he might appreciate aging normally and living a life with Belle. What sucks is that since physically he’s 20 years older, how much time would they have together? Sigh
It’s sorta sad to think about with their age difference. Though on the plus side, if she ends up being welcomed properly into the whole family, she’ll still be surrounded by people who love her, even after he’s gone.
This talk of being mortal makes me think of how I’m (currently) thinking that PP needs Henry because he wants to become mortal himself, and be able to age and die. Rumple would go into the battle expecting not to come out at all, but that’s what he’d end up with, the same thing PP was striving for, to be able to age like a normal human. I’m really looking forward to Rumple seeing Rumple willingly go to give up his life…and then the look on his face when he realises he’s still there, just without his curse. “Whaaaat theeeee….oh, so THAT’S what “undoing” meant?!” 😕 😮