@KFChimera wrote:
@Surayya wrote:
Slightly off topic, but like with Emma/Neil, it does concern CS….. Anyone else having reservations over hints that Hook/Ariel maybe being paired? I’m not keen simply because Ariel is supposed to be very, very young- like 16 young, which is to young to fall for a 30 something pirate (with 300 odd yrs of experiences) imo anyway (I’d rather her fall for a young Prince Eric than Hook) & if they made her obviously mid- late 20’s (like the rest of the Disney princesses on the show), she wouldn’t really be ‘Ariel’ anymore, but more a red haired rip off of Splash- if that makes sense?
As I think Demileto pointed out on another thread–youth is not really that central to Ariel’s character any more than it is for the other princesses. Snow is 15 in the original animated movie version, and they’ve doubled her age give or take few years. The important part about Ariel was she was fascinated with another culture, and fell in love, made a deal to be human instead of a mermaid.
Correct. Even if they age her up to about 20ish, they can still believably have Triton as a protective parent who is concerned by his daughter’s fascination with the world of humans. Making her a bit older also means they can give her a more fully developed romance storyline, instead of a more innocent one they’d have to give her if she was cast as 16. You can get away with marrying off a 16 year old animated character a bit easier than you can a real life one.
@Surayya wrote:
Also Eric is suppose to be Ariel’s TL, not Killian.
If they have to make Killian portray a 3rd character, it either should to be a villain- like they do with Rumple- yes I know beast isn’t a ‘true’ villain, but he started out portrayed as mean/bad etc & blossomed into the hero prince (& I’m not keen on Hook becoming another villain!) or keep it in the universe of the Peter Pan story..ie a lost boy, Pan or Indian, otherwise we start to loose major characters out of other stories & it all becomes very confusing trying to keep track of who is really who & who they relate to, along with when, where & how!
FWIW, Barrie wrote that, “Hook was not his true name. To reveal who he really was would even at this date set the country in a blaze.” And there’s a telling of Hook’s story that writes him as the illegitimate son of royalty:
According to the (non-canon) novel Capt. Hook: The Adventures of a Notorious Youth, Captain Hook was born the illegitimate son of a nobleman, “Lord B”, and an unnamed woman Hook has never met (however, throughout the story, there are multiple clues in the way characters act and react that the unnamed woman may in fact be the Queen). Denounced by Lord B, James Matthew is brought up by a Shakespearean actress he calls Aunt Emily. When he is fifteen he unwillingly attends Eton College as an Oppidan scholar.
Yes, I realise that that particular publication isn’t Neverland canon and isn’t something they’d have the rights to borrow from for Once, but that idea, combined with Barrie himself saying that there was a scandalous secret to Hooks true identity, has had me wondering for a while if when we get the story of Killian’s youth, it may be revealed that he was actually born of a noble bloodline. Ships aside, just speaking as a straight up Hook fan, I think a backstory like that for him would be really interesting.
As for Prince Eric, he really has no set in stone back story of his own, he just exists so that Ariel has someone to fall in love with. Having him be someone we haven’t yet met would make Ariel’s story disjointed from the major plot of the show, and as an Ariel fan, I’d like to see her get a better treatment than that. Making Killian a former prince, and then making him Ariel’s prince would connect Ariel’s story in quite nicely, and make her seem less random.
Finally, speaking as someone who is actually a Hookriel shipper, I think it’s over the top, obscenely, undeniably romantic if a man who has given his life to the sea ends up having a true love who was born from it. But this isn’t a Hookriel thread, sooooo *paddling away now*…