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@Phee wrote:
FWIW, Barrie wrote that, “Hook was not his true name. To reveal who he really was would even at this date set the country in a blaze.” And there’s a telling of Hook’s story that writes him as the illegitimate son of royalty:
According to the (non-canon) novel Capt. Hook: The Adventures of a Notorious Youth, Captain Hook was born the illegitimate son of a nobleman, “Lord B”, and an unnamed woman Hook has never met (however, throughout the story, there are multiple clues in the way characters act and react that the unnamed woman may in fact be the Queen). Denounced by Lord B, James Matthew is brought up by a Shakespearean actress he calls Aunt Emily. When he is fifteen he unwillingly attends Eton College as an Oppidan scholar.
Yes, I realise that that particular publication isn’t Neverland canon and isn’t something they’d have the rights to borrow from for Once, but that idea, combined with Barrie himself saying that there was a scandalous secret to Hooks true identity, has had me wondering for a while if when we get the story of Killian’s youth, it may be revealed that he was actually born of a noble bloodline. Ships aside, just speaking as a straight up Hook fan, I think a backstory like that for him would be really interesting.
FWIW???? Not sure what this stands for 😕
Yes, him having say a noble heritage would be interesting- but he doesn’t need to be Eric- who was already say 20 in disney’s TLMM anyway (not say 330)+ he was almost nabbed up by Ursula etc- we surely loose all that & any off shoots if it’s Hook (Killian isn’t that naive- he’s been around long enough to at least know Ursula & her ways if he knows Regina)- I want THEIR (Ariel & Eric’s) story mixed into NL or FTL, not a touch of it, twisted so it can be mash up with NL.
@Phee wrote:
As for Prince Eric, he really has no set in stone back story of his own, he just exists so that Ariel has someone to fall in love with. Having him be someone we haven’t yet met would make Ariel’s story disjointed from the major plot of the show, and as an Ariel fan, I’d like to see her get a better treatment than that. Making Killian a former prince, and then making him Ariel’s prince would connect Ariel’s story in quite nicely, and make her seem less random.
See I totally disagree- Has Robin Hood, Cinders, Red etc made the show disjointed? They all have stories in their own right, but they are connected to our mains story- they don’t have to take over characters out of each others stories to keep it all smooth- very few aside from Rumple have ‘taken’ over other FTL characters outside of their own ‘stories’.
@Phee wrote:
Finally, speaking as someone who is actually a Hookriel shipper, I think it’s over the top, obscenely, undeniably romantic if a man who has given his life to the sea ends up having a true love who was born from it. But this isn’t a Hookriel thread, sooooo *paddling away now*…
I can see it’s something we wont agree on, as we have 2 very different perspectives on the subject 😉 & part of why I didn’t search out a thread (if there is one) or start a new one as I didn’t want to have to defend my view to full on Ariel/Hook shippers 😉
I don’t want Killian’s character hitched to Ariel’s- just because he’s a pirate with a ship & could be of noble birth (It’d be like having Regina/Evil Queen be Rapunzel)- it just makes me want CS to happen all the more 😉 😀