@LisaFromOH wrote:
Also, people keep pointing out that Snow was manipulated into telling the secret. That is true, but Regina doesn’t know that. For all Regina knows, Snow searched out Cora in order to tell her. Regina knows her mother is manipulative, but she does not know that Cora manipulated Snow into telling the secret, only that she is capable of doing so. Regina did not know Snow well enough to know that she would try to keep the secret and after this point her opinion of Snow is already prejudiced.
That’s a fair point, she didn’t know for sure how that conversation happened. It wouldn’t have been a stretch for her to put 2 and 2 together and realise that Cora had manipulated Snow, but in the heat of the moment when she found out Snow had blabbed, she probably wasn’t thinking that deeply about it, she just had a snap reaction.
@rumplegoldfan wrote:
In some ways has the curse actually caused Snow to provide Regina with a new love?
Ya know, it kinda has. Too bad for Regina that she’s failing at the mother – child relationship she’s been given the opportunity for.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
I agree with the assessment that Regina took out her anger on the easier target because Regina couldn’t take on her mother or her magic at that stage. I think we’ll see that in another episode: how to do magic.
Yes, I’m hoping we’ll see Regina unleash some rage on Cora in a future ep. That will be fabulous!
At this stage I’m going with the idea that Regina didn’t get her powers in exactly the same way that Rumple got his, I’m thinking she just stole her mother’s powers (perhaps with some help from Rumple?) and banished her to Wonderland.
@rumplegoldfan wrote:
I just watched the episode again and I have this nagging feeling that somehow (and I KNOW the timeline doesn’t seem to make sense) that Cora was Rumple’s wife. In the scene in the stable right after Cora ripped Daniel’s heart out she is giving this big speech to Regina about everything she has sacrificed for her and she ends it by saying something like “Love is nothing. Power is more important. If you have power you never have to depend on anyone every again.” It just sounded so similar to when Rumple kicked Belle out by saying “My power means more to me than you” as a way of trying to deny that he loved her – as if he heard something similar said to him in a hurtful manner in the past. And based upon what the guard said to Rumple about his wife leaving him because he was a coward who ran from a war – Rumple was a stable-type guy like Daniel who Cora clearly detested and said she had worked her way up from that kind of life, it could be that she felt that Rumple being a poor “coward” was someone she couldn’t depend on so she needed to become powerful. And that could be the reason she left, and Rumple told Bae his mother was dead instead of letting him know what she is really like.
Timeline impossibilities aside, I think it’d be interesting if this ended up being true. It’d mean that Rumple DID in fact get the miller’s daughter’s first born. No, he wasn’t magical at the time, and there was no straw spinning involved in the story, but it’d still be a shoutout to the theme of the original story. Considering they’ve injected Rumple into all the other stories, he probably doesn’t need his own told in the way we know it, so maybe it just never happened like that in the Once-iverse.
Maybe he was married to the miller’s daughter, and she had a son, but it was the result of an affair, (the Dark One implied that Rumple might not actually be Bae’s father). Rumple comes back from war labeled a coward and Cora takes off, either with Bae’s bio dad, or on her own, leaving the baby behind, (safe to assume that Bae’s mother disappeared when he was a baby coz he’s relying on Rumple’s info as to what happened to her). Maybe Cora came back at some point, after Rumple had become the Dark One, and ended up taking some of his powers? Have we seen Rumple do that trick that the Dark One did? Where he raised his fist and the magic controlled people? Zoso did it, Cora did it, but I dunno that we’ve seen Rumple do it? So perhaps Cora somehow stole just enough of Rumple’s powers that it granted her some sort of immortality? That’d solve the timeline problem.
@rumplegoldfan wrote:
– and when that happened her mother told her “Well played, I’m so proud of you.” Even more wacked!!!
What got me was when he told Regina she’d done something right for the first time ever. Gee, thanks mum. 🙄 Then it tuns out that that whole situation had been set up by Cora anyway.
@rumplegoldfan wrote:
I think that Regina and Rumple became acquainted because they both wanted to get revenge on Cora for how she had hurt them
I could totally see that a common enemy like Cora could bring them together. To pick up from the other theory I speculated on just above, maybe Regina goes to Rumple because she’s desperate to have some power over her mother and he’s all, “Ya know, she did this trick on me once where she stole some of my powers. Turn about is fair play, here’s how you can do the same thing to her.”