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Reply To: The CaptainSwan thread!

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November 8, 2013 at 2:15 am #222118
MysteryKat25
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I can’t wait for any of it! Chomping at the bit for sure!

We’ve seen Hook open the Jolly Roger to Emma so it’s great that we’ll see Emma opening the bug to him!

Both have so much meaning to each of them but ALSO represent the past and I don’t see either saying “you have to get rid of it because it’s associated with ___” – it’s a part of who they are! So I’m taking this as a good sign.

I do feel bad for my SF friends as I’m sure they’re freaking out because it’s typically associated with them (and we never had the ability to do that about Hook’s ship because we never really cared so much for his relationship with Milah so it doesn’t bother us as much but in thinking about it, it really was an iconic thing for them too) but I do get territorial over shipper items (coconuts are in contention this season which is driving me bonkers) but I will not ask that Killian get rid of his ship (unless he wants to) and therefore I cannot ask Emma to ditch her bug even after choosing Killian (unless she wants to) – both of which are doubtful.

The history with these three is so intertwined it’s ridiculous. A lot of the things that Neal taught Emma may have been learned FROM HOOK for all we know. Some things are definitively associated with one side (I don’t see Emma and Hook sharing a dreamcatcher thing ever for instance) but with some things, like methods of transportation, what’s good for one is good for the other and they’re such iconic and important parts of what makes them who they are (and the struggles they went through living in each) that I have to make an exception to what is usually a hard and fast rule for me.

It’s sad that it does crossover but guess what, SO DO THE PEOPLE. I would PREFER for them to not have any crossover like that, but again – we can’t enjoy any moments for Hook & Emma on the Jolly Roger if we focus on the past and the same has to be true for Emma’s bug. There’s just no way around that and short of her getting back to Storybrooke and immediately trading in her car what else is she supposed to do?

I know this is rough and unfortunately a huge part of Emma was associated with her past (just like Hook and his ship), but a line has to be drawn somewhere. I still resent Neal using a RumBelle line, and I take issue with coconuts suddenly meaning Tallahassee/home for Emma & Neal *grrrr*  instead of the coconuts that Hook and Emma shared (we had it one episode earlier *grumbles*), but with certain things there HAS to be some kind of crossover. Henry – non-negotiable. Obviously she can’t give him back and erase him from her life. She DID give back the swan keychain/necklace though which is the only time we’ve seen her give a keepsake back. Ever.

Believe me I would much rather see them make memories somewhere that ISN’T associated with EITHER of their past loves, but there has to be some crossover at some point because they are involved and can’t erase every little thing in their lives that relates to the past. They CAN however, choose to move forward and not FOCUS on the past. And again, right now that’s her method of transportation. The car is all she has and they’re on dry land so it’s not like he can offer his ship again right now.

I look forward to many more things in the future that ARE just Hook and Emma’s so we don’t have any of this mess. I’m sure a lot of fans are going to be really upset and sending Adam a ton of hate for daring to use such an iconic item (even though personally I associate it with EMMA since she actually lived in it the longest, regardless of who she met when she stole it), but I can see how that would be very very troubling and I’m torn as I can’t imagine certain things ever being shared with anyone else, but at the same time some things are just inevitable.

I can’t imagine Emma without the bug or Hook without the ship. It’s part of who they are. Hook let Emma onto his ship and now Emma is letting Hook into her car. If anything it’s nice symbolism and a reclaiming of things that are THEIRS and allowing someone new into their personal space and moving forward with their lives rather than focusing on & cherishing the past to the point where it consumes them and doesn’t allow them to move forward. Whatever right Neal may have once had to the car and his time there with Emma, it ran out when he didn’t come back after the curse was broken (likely how she feels about it but since we never got a conversation about it we don’t know for sure *grrr I’d love to have heard that*, and continued to try NOT to come back after that. Perhaps if he is witness to her driving the bug AND seeing Hook in the car we’ll finally get that convo? I’m sure it would pain him to see her not only choose Killian but see him in “their” car so it would make for drama.

I really really hate feeling remotely hypocritical because I can’t stand 99% of the time associating anything (other than a person) with conflicting ships but I don’t really see any way around objects LIKE THIS. It’s sad but true. Short of trading in both I’m not sure how you can erase everything.

Something to ponder: Does Rumple spinning with Belle get destroyed because he once taught Cora how to spin? Is the spinning wheel (a very big, iconic part of his past) tarnished by the fact that many many years ago he taught someone he loved how to spin and then ended up with someone else? NO – because RumBelle is TL and the past is the past and it’s a part of him and always will be but he’s MOVED ON to the point where IT DOESN’T MATTER anymore because he LOVES BELLE.

Here’s to more things we CAN call our own and have this be only the beginning! I still want context though. BIG TIME.

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